recessed ground lights

[adam.h]

looking at some lights for a garden patio area, they come with a built in transformer and only have 140mm of cable attached. So when wiring swa, what would you use to connect a few up? If this is all done under the patio then the junction boxes will not be accessable?

 

[Mark.W]

Some members on here are raving about wagobox's. It's a maintenance free JB!

Hope this helps!

 

[adam.h]

I have some of those, but they are not ip rated and are plastic so would leak and probably break lol.
Will check to see if they do some though

 

[Mark.W]

You can go down to the wholesalers and buy some resin joint kits!

Armoured Cable Resin Joint Kit for 2, 3, 4 & 5 Core - 6 to 16mm - QVS Electrical Supplies | Electrical Wholesaler

something like this!

 

[adam.h]

Are they not soley for joining two cables together? If you have a feed to then connect to say 6 lights I dont think it would work unless you can have two cables out one end. Plus at £16 a pop.

 

[Mac]

Are they not soley for joining two cables together? If you have a feed to then connect to say 6 lights I dont think it would work unless you can have two cables out one end. Plus at £16 a pop.

http://www.lightingforgardens.com/pdf/E8941_S.pdf

 

[The Truth]

mains patio lights are a major ball ache with the SWA issue. if i had to use them then i would run individual cables to each patio light back to a central JB. Dont be tempted to use any galv conduit boxes with lid and gasket bacause they always always always leak and do not have any IP rating despite what a lot of amatuers think. as said above better to use LV lights like LED or just LV halogen then you dont need to run SWA...just HO7 or similar rubber outdoor cable. i would still run the cables back to a central JB for ease of installation and less chance of joint failure undergound.

 

[Sintra]

I have some of those, but they are not ip rated and are plastic so would leak and probably break lol.
Will check to see if they do some though

Try magic gel it makes any box ip rated. Innovation Only

 

[Matthew M]

This seems a common problem. 12volts sounds nice and safe for outdoors but there is nowhere to put the transformer or its connections. I try to find 240V appliances with sufficiently high IP ratings. Then there are fewer connections to go wrong.
Another problem with 12 volt; the currents are much higher. When you look at an old failed system it is most usually the low voltage dodgy connections which are burned through.
And another is that half your energy is wasted in ohmic losses ij the cables.
IMO 12 volts as a safer option is a vast red herring. Do it at 240 volts and find good enough connectors to keep the rain off.

 

[Mac]

This seems a common problem. 12volts sounds nice and safe for outdoors but there is nowhere to put the transformer or its connections. I try to find 240V appliances with sufficiently high IP ratings. Then there are fewer connections to go wrong.
Another problem with 12 volt; the currents are much higher. When you look at an old failed system it is most usually the low voltage dodgy connections which are burned through.
And another is that half your energy is wasted in ohmic losses ij the cables.
IMO 12 volts as a safer option is a vast red herring. Do it at 240 volts and find good enough connectors to keep the rain off.

Hi Matthew and welcome to the forum

 

[adam.h]

Might just try advise against them lol
Or just go for these 4 x LED Outdoor Decking Light Kit - White - QVS Electrical Supplies | Electrical Wholesaler

Say's Easy to install - no electrician required. lol