Regulation for using a cable reel?

[Paisley]

Been working at a cinema refurbishment but our firm are not doing the data cables or the speakers. It got to the end of the day and the people who are doing that side of things were pulling what looked like t+e through the studwork on the back wall of one of the screens. The roll was not on a reel, was just lying flat on the floor and as you can imagine there was a twist every foot of the run (which goes along the back wall then down the left and right walls to the speakers). Even though it is just speaker wire could it still create a build up of heat from the eddy currents? I thought I saw in the OSG a regulation about using a cable reel to avoid twists when pulling cables but have looked through it and found nothing. Looked through a few parts of the regs book too and couldn't find anything there either. I expect the builders will start to board over it tomorrow so thought I'd post a query up on here as I know this can be a very informative forum. Cheers guys

 

[cliffed]

How did we do it so neatly all those years ago,with no reel cable toys,it’s a doddle le,personally it’s great to have 2 or 3 drums on the go,but hey,it’s fine without the cable reeler,never had any trouble,but I have seen others get in a right state
Regulation your having a laugh ha ha ha

 

[Squid]

Bit of conduit a pair of steps and 10 rolls of single 2.5mm

Still a mystery to me how many younger Electrician and Installers can't run a length of twin and cpc without a cable roller without getting any twists, still I suppose that's the penalty you have to pay when training and only using a couple of feet of cable.

Leave the roll flat on the floor and pull the cable hard so the roll spins around and the cable un-furls, the worst is when it gets wet and the card board rings fall off as then that is where all the wrist action learnt as a 16 year old comes in handy un-rolling the cable reel.

 

[Pete999]

Bit of conduit a pair of steps and 10 rolls of single 2.5mm


Leave the roll flat on the floor and pull the cable hard so the roll spins around and the cable un-furls, the worst is when it gets wet and the card board rings fall off as then that is where all the wrist action learnt as a 16 year old comes in handy un-rolling the cable reel.

I was taught to : lay the drum on it's side take the cable off the drum using both hands, take as much as you think is required, and then run it out on the floor, very difficult to explain, with out pictures, don't ask me to draw it out either.

 

[Squid]

I was taught to : lay the drum on it's side take the cable off the drum using both hands, take as much as you think is required, and then run it out on the floor, very difficult to explain, with out pictures, don't ask me to draw it out either.

Or hold cable in hand and kick drum away was another way.

I get what you mean though, remember there is always a quicker and a better way of doing something and I was good at that, maybe its my OCD lol

 

[Squid]

A question, when using stands for reels do you roll the cable from the top or the bottom of the reel?

I know what I would do.............

 

[NDG Elecs]

A cable real is cheap, and there's no excuse not to use one

But I haven't got enough room in my van Murdoch!!

 

[Jim90]

Still got me old set made up of 25mm Galv! Folds up nicely too! Must be atleast 15 years old.

 

[SparkyChick]

A question, when using stands for reels do you roll the cable from the top or the bottom of the reel?

I know what I would do.............

Depends where they are going... if they are going up into a wall, from the bottom... if they are going down into a void below the drum, from the top

 

[westward10]

For larger drums, two vans side by side and both sets of windows open and a scaffold pole

 

[Andy78]

For larger drums, two vans side by side and both sets of windows open and a scaffold pole

We once bent a scaff pole like it was a pipe cleaner with a large drum. We had to nip off to the nearest fab shop and picked up a rod of the same diameter as a scaff pole but solid steel. That worked better

 

[westward10]

I have only done the above once years ago between two bashed escort vans, used a couple of G clamps to stop the drum damaging the doors

 

[Squid]

At Heathrow airport we used a 5 tonne lorry to help us pull an armoured that was on a roll at least 8ft high.

 

[Strima]

I was doing a job a few weeks ago, I had a second man sent with me to do some of the humping and dumping. He's one of our FLM engineers, first line maint. I good analogy I like to use is half of them can't tie their own shoe laces, the other half don't want to.

We carried over three 50m reels of 25mm singles to the cabin we we're working in and chucked them on the cable jack I had. I told him to tape the ends together so we could feed them into the overhead basket we were working on and I disappeared into the cabin and go up the steps ready to start pulling the cables in.

He appeared at the door and passed me the first few meters for me to make a start, I told him to try and keep the cables from twisting together to make dressing in easier.

He was struggling a bit to feed them in so after a couple of minutes I got down and stepped outside. He'd taken the reels off the cable jack and rolled them out in the compound to make life easier...

I started calling him Hovis after that, Thick cut...

 

[Pete999]

How did we do it so neatly all those years ago,with no reel cable toys,it’s a doddle le,personally it’s great to have 2 or 3 drums on the go,but hey,it’s fine without the cable reeler,never had any trouble,but I have seen others get in a right state
Regulation your having a laugh ha ha ha

Don't there are any reel regulations

 

[Scratch Music]

Never use T&E or CAT5/6 for speaker wire. Typically stranded double insulated 1.0mm minimum for background music systems (100v). Minimum 1.5mm double insulated for low impedance with runs up to say 20m. For long runs on high powered consult signal loss charts. Try to use black/red conducters to aid identification.