Regulation help for ex electrician

[7029 dave]

Part p is an building regulation nothing more or less.

 

[DuaneMHunt1976]

City and Guilds 2397-30 a QUICK FIX COURSE

https://www.tradeskills4u.co.uk/courses/2397-course



Think it only takes a week to do

This is suitable for electrical work in dwellings. These qualifications also cover wiring regulations and initial verification so youwill not need an additional qualification from lists 7 or 8.
Experience: with this qualification you can register for Full Scope for Dwellings Only without any experience criteria.

Level 3 Certificate in Installing, Testing and Ensuring Complianceof Electrical Installations in Dwellings
(QCF)C&G 2397‐30 600/7888/1EAL 600/7695/1



So if i had a PART P qualification, i can wipe off 2yr Experence and could do 3rd Party if i wanted

"The following qualifications include some underlying knowledge or entry‐level content but are not sufficient to be consideredequivalent to the requirements for registration. They can be used provided you can demonstrate 2 years’ experience"

 

[Simonslimline]

City and Guilds 2397-30 a QUICK FIX COURSE

https://www.tradeskills4u.co.uk/courses/2397-course





Think it only takes a week to do

This is suitable for electrical work in dwellings. These qualifications also cover wiring regulations and initial verification so youwill not need an additional qualification from lists 7 or 8.
Experience: with this qualification you can register for Full Scope for Dwellings Only without any experience criteria.

Level 3 Certificate in Installing, Testing and Ensuring Complianceof Electrical Installations in Dwellings
(QCF)C&G 2397‐30 600/7888/1EAL 600/7695/1

Nothing more than a money spinner for the "Training centres"!

 

[DuaneMHunt1976]

Yes but the Likes of NAPIT take it as a Qualificaiont o sign up for them

Ive looked at some of the members here and i think some have done it that way .. some have Part P and 17th Edition only

 

[Simonslimline]

Yes but the Likes of NAPIT take it as a Qualificaiont o sign up for them

Ive looked at some of the members here and i think some have done it that way .. some have Part P and 17th Edition only

So that means they are not qualified electricians then.

 

[DuaneMHunt1976]

Sorry it double posted, Desktop is being a bit slow

 

[DuaneMHunt1976]

The Question is the Wording, Can you be a Not Qualified Electrician in this Age, Isnt it a Double Negitive

OK lets go back to BASIC, what is a Electrician, now i cant define what it is, only the people who give the title out (Goverment/ITE)

The way the Governing Bodies define it, as someone with Qualificaions and depending on level of understanding.
Old way, i am guessing was more Time Spent doing the Job. (that dosnt seem to have a Time Limit, guess there shouldnt be, but mor down to the persons understanding of doing the job in hand)

So were dose that leave the Pre-Qual Electricians.
Are you an Apprentice Electrician still or a Electrician seems you seem to have done your NVQ3 (or you still missing AM2)

 

[Simonslimline]

The Question is the Wording, Can you be a Not Qualified Electrician in this Age, Isnt it a Double Negitive

OK lets go back to BASIC, what is a Electrician, now i cant define what it is, only the people who give the title out (Goverment/ITE)

The way the Governing Bodies define it, as someone with Qualificaions and depending on level of understanding.
Old way, i am guessing was more Time Spent doing the Job. (that dosnt seem to have a Time Limit, guess there shouldnt be, but mor down to the persons understanding of doing the job in hand)

So were dose that leave the Pre-Qual Electricians.
Are you an Apprentice Electrician still or a Electrician seems you seem to have done your NVQ3 (or you still missing AM2)

I have my level 3 tech certificate which is as written on the certificate/profile. I recently passed the 2394/5 also. Just plodding along with the NVQ site diary side of things at the moment. Should be booked in for my AM2 quite soon.

Still an apprentice and have lots to learn.

 

[shanky887614]

I have my level 3 tech certificate which is as written on the certificate/profile. I recently passed the 2394/5 also. Just plodding along with the NVQ site diary side of things at the moment. Should be booked in for my AM2 quite soon.

Still an apprentice and have lots to learn.

the am2 is really easy. how are you getting on with your logbooks?

i was lazy and knocked up 3 of my writeups in a couple hours (i have a very good memory when i actually pay attention)

 

[Simonslimline]

the am2 is really easy. how are you getting on with your logbooks?

i was lazy and knocked up 3 of my writeups in a couple hours (i have a very good memory when i actually pay attention)

How did you find the AM2?

Just collecting photos at the moment. I will do a few write ups at a time and go from there i reckon. Got some more commercial 3 phase work coming up so should get some good evidence/pictures from this.

I must admit i have a tad slow with the evidence, i was out of work with a broken Tib/Fib for 12 months.

 

[DuaneMHunt1976]

You should NEVER stop learning, with Electrical's and Electronics forever changing in small ways
we on graphene and all sorts of Computer Devices popping up from WIFI Cams to remote Switches etc

 

[shanky887614]

How did you find the AM2?

Just collecting photos at the moment. I will do a few write ups at a time and go from there i reckon. Got some more commercial 3 phase work coming up so should get some good evidence/pictures from this.

I must admit i have a tad slow with the evidence, i was out of work with a broken Tib/Fib for 12 months.

hmm finished at 11am on 2nd day then 10am on the third.

honestly it is easy.

the install can be finished on the first day if you rush, i took my time and finished it off in the morning.

the testing/fault finding and safe isolation was easy (dont give them the key)


the online exam was a joke and can be done in 15mins made, you will get bored and leave a question or two unanswered (i had two that i couldn't find referenced in bs7671 but they were obscure questions and didnt have a clue where to look)

 

[Simonslimline]

You should NEVER stop learning, with Electrical's and Electronics forever changing in small ways
we on graphene and all sorts of Computer Devices popping up from WIFI Cams to remote Switches etc

Indeed, everyday is a school day.

 

[shanky887614]

You should NEVER stop learning, with Electrical's and Electronics forever changing in small ways
we on graphene and all sorts of Computer Devices popping up from WIFI Cams to remote Switches etc

wifi camera's are a bad idea, google defcon and car hacking and you will see why.


most of these devices have such poor security implemented they are rendered useless especially as they will never be updated.


there was a talk on at defcon or maybe blackhat where they got the firmware for most ip cameras of the manufacturer's websites then found the default unchanagable admin accounts in the firmware.


there was one camera they ccouldn't and that is you have to buy the camera and it cost thousands

 

[Simonslimline]

hmm finished at 11am on 2nd day then 10am on the third.

honestly it is easy.

the install can be finished on the first day if you rush, i took my time and finished it off in the morning.

the testing/fault finding and safe isolation was easy (dont give them the key)


the online exam was a joke and can be done in 15mins made, you will get bored and leave a question or two unanswered (i had two that i couldn't find referenced in bs7671 but they were obscure questions and didnt have a clue where to look)

Sounds like a pretty pointless test these days to be fair. But i need it to get my JIB card.

I take it you passed it with ease then?