Right guys

[wrighty]

ive been made redundant today, for the 2nd time in 2.5 years, i dont have my 17th edition or my 2391. Im looking into options and realise these 2 qualifications are going to be essential for me to either obtain a new job or go flying solo n take on the world ha. Im time served came out of my time in november 2009 so im wondering where to start with these courses. im abit reluctant to fork out for the 2391 straight away just with the pass rate etc n my own confidence. although the 17th i know you used to be able to do exam only dont think thats possible any more, So for those of you in the know where do i start with the 17th. what course do i need to sit or am i able to sit? im looking for the cheapest shortest route but abit unsure with this?

 

[TaffyDuck]

mate if youve genuinely been made redundant go to your local job center and they will put you on courses cant remember the formal name for the situation/reasoning but i know you will definately be able to get your 2391 and 17th ed for free go down and speak to them do it mate

Yeah, a lad I know locally was made redundant a year after finishing his apprenticeship. He got 2391, 2392, 2377 and a fire alarm course out of them but he was well qualified and experienced before so that may have made a difference. Worth checking out though

 

[mickys86]

college cost for 17th is around £240. can be done evenings for 12 weeks. that would be you 1st step.then, if you are going self employed you can join one of the scams.

If you know how to read the book then you don't need the course. exam fee is all it will cost. I think it's around £35 but you also need the green book.

Guys at my college are doing it.

 

[supasparxs]

yeh i have testing experience, did a bit of inspect and test on schools etc at my last place but not done any for a while, most recent company had a dedicate tester they sent around.


as previously said, how do you go about with your installs n signing off etc without 2391? ive looked into this before last time i was out of work etc but its all abit of a grey area to me

If you know how to test, and interpret the information. Go and get your 17th and if you intend going self employed, goto the business section. There is a thread about alone.
Napit will accept you without your 2391 so long as you know how to test. Experience is king when it come to testing. Even the exam is written in a way to weight towards experience.

Some has said here goto the job centre and sign up for free 17th and 2391 courses.
Getting the piece of paper is important

 

[Andy78]

Please don't count on the job centre to pay for anything !!! but by all means you can ask. I came off JSA in december afer 18 months of being refused any funding for any courses of any type. They said they would pay if I could prove I would be given a specific job as a result of passing any course. I paid for it myself in the end.
Despite me pointing out that every job that came up required me to have the 17th , they woud not pay for it for me unless I secured a firm job offer first. This is partly the reason I was on the system for so long.

I sincerely hope you get treated better than me if you rely on them for help.

 

[Guest112]

sorry to hear about the hassle andy, others might be luckier ive heard of a few lads managing to get free courses within the last year or so worth asking i suppose

 

[jeremy]

Rather than take time off work, I got a home study CD rom (£60) from Down Under Tradies, and am going there on Thursday to do the exam (£180). Seems expensive but for not having to take time off work to study it's saved me hundreds. The CD rom has actually been quite good as a refresher but equally if the student is newish it guides you quite well through the regs. You are supposed to have had a certain amount of "led study" before sitting the exam.

 

[lauriehurman]

im looking for the cheapest shortest route but abit unsure with this?

Cheapest or shortest? Which?
The cheapest is the buy the BGB and teach yourself to find things in it. With apologies to the experts who already know - the 2382 is NOT an exam about how much of the book you remember. It's an exam about being able to find the regulations in the book, which you have open in front of you.
You can buy software from ElectaCourse which will simulate the exam. It's not very good but once you're gone through it a hundred times you will be pretty confident at looking things up.

Shortest? A short course from a commercial training place. A few days and a few hundred pounds. Job done.

Laurie

 

[lauriehurman]

I think it's around £35 but you also need the green book.

Further education colleges will not let you take the exam with them unless you have been enrolled on their course. Any commercial training outfit will let you take the test alone. I paid £120 (IIRC).
Laurie

 

[supasparxs]

Shortest? A short course from a commercial training place. A few days and a few hundred pounds. Job done.

Laurie

Buy a CD will not teach you how to stick post-it notes in the specific part of the regs. It won't show you which points are worth highlighting so it is easy to find in exam conditions, it won't out of the blue ask you something to look up. The commercial course I took did all of that.

There were 3 of us on it one guy who was from a fire alarm background ( his boss wanted him to test em lighting) another guy who had never worked on the tools (another textbook electrician who had never been on site) and me with over 25 years in the industry with minimal domestic experience, as I'm from a commercial installation background)
After 4 days we all passed.

Good luck with you CD......

 

[lauriehurman]

Just to clarify for the newcomers;
You sit the 2382 exam with a copy of 7671 open in front of you but that has to be a "clean" copy. No post-its, no highlighter, clean.
I'm sure SupaSpaxs wasn't intending to mislead but just so nobody gets caught out.

Laurie

 

[supasparxs]

Just to clarify for the newcomers;
You sit the 2382 exam with a copy of 7671 open in front of you but that has to be a "clean" copy. No post-its, no highlighter, clean.
I'm sure SupaSpaxs wasn't intending to mislead but just so nobody gets caught out.

Laurie

er yeah
sorry If I misled anyone