Ring circuit question

[Neil73]

Hi, first post.

I was hoping for some advice. I have just brought a property and the electrical side needs updating. I have one ring main for the whole property, so why I am doing up the kitchen I have decided to put a separate ring main in for the kitchen, my issue is what should I do with the existing sockets in the room? should I put a blank faceplate on them? I am not sure how I can separate them from the existing ring main circuit, and utilise them in the new kitchen circuit without causing issues to the existing ring circuit.

Appreciate any advice

 

[Pete999]

Might want to get an Electrician to help you out Mate

 

[Midwest]

Hi Neil, welcome to the forum. I'm not sure of your electrical expertise or competence.

It would be a good idea to create a new & additional circuit for a kitchen & appliances. The existing RFC in the kitchen would require alteration & disconnection etc, in the floor void or by alteration of sockets in the floor above. A new final circuit could then be added for the kitchen.

This would be a relatively simple task for a competent electrician, but would cause a bit of disruption, of removing floors, or removal of some or all of the kitchen ceiling.

By definition, the new kitchen circuit would require notification to your local building control.

 

[SparkyChick]

Ideally, you would identify the full cable route, which ideally would be that the kitchen section is separate (i.e. there is one cable into it and one cable out of it, with no other sockets, say first floor, being supplied by it). If that situation exists, it's easy enough to split the existing ring and run new legs to supply the kitchen only, if not then I'd look at rewiring it as you don't want to have lots of additional connections as each one is a possible point of failure in the future.

You're not clear on what qualifications you have, but as has been suggested, you may be best to engage the services of someone with a little more experience.

 

[Strima]

Sounds like your sockets are fed from an upstairs ring, easiest option is to completely rip the ceiling out and start from fresh in the kitchen. The existing RFC can be rerouted at the same time.

 

[Taylortwocities]

And the term is RING FINAL circuit, not RING MAIN.

 

[Neil73]

Hi, Thanks for all your reply's so far. Just so you are aware I am City and Guilds trained, however I have never been a practicing electrician as I went in a different direction. I would never attempted anything I was confident I knew I was doing.
Thanks

 

[Octopus]

Please be aware what you are thinking of falls under part P of the building regs ..

 

[Pete999]

And the term is RING FINAL circuit, not RING MAIN.

No offence TTC for the old tag, but I always get an Old tag when I post the same as you so I thought why should you get away without one as well

 

[Taylortwocities]

I’ll bet we aren’t as ‘old’ as his C&G training. His post indicates he doesn’t remember so well.

 

[Pete999]

I’ll bet we aren’t as ‘old’ as his C&G training. His post indicates he doesn’t remember so well.

Question is "what is the C&G" qualification?

 

[Taylortwocities]

Just so you are aware I am City and Guilds trained,

 

[MJPD29]

Could be city and guilds arts and crafts for all we know. Be careful as if your not a practicing electrician you could land yourself in danger

 

[Midwest]

Lets not scare off another new member, he's only asking a question.

 

[Octopus]

Lets not scare off another new member, he's only asking a question.

True - he may be back soon to update us on his thoughts re the "relevant" comments about what he would like to do...