Ring circuit question

[Neil73]

Hi, first post.

I was hoping for some advice. I have just brought a property and the electrical side needs updating. I have one ring main for the whole property, so why I am doing up the kitchen I have decided to put a separate ring main in for the kitchen, my issue is what should I do with the existing sockets in the room? should I put a blank faceplate on them? I am not sure how I can separate them from the existing ring main circuit, and utilise them in the new kitchen circuit without causing issues to the existing ring circuit.

Appreciate any advice

 

[7029 dave]

Hi, first post.

I was hoping for some advice. I have just brought a property and the electrical side needs updating. I have one ring main for the whole property, so why I am doing up the kitchen I have decided to put a separate ring main in for the kitchen, my issue is what should I do with the existing sockets in the room? should I put a blank faceplate on them? I am not sure how I can separate them from the existing ring main circuit, and utilise them in the new kitchen circuit without causing issues to the existing ring circuit.

Appreciate any advice

Hi, IMO, leave the existing circuit as is, and just create new circuit for the new.

 

[7029 dave]

Hi, first post.

I was hoping for some advice. I have just brought a property and the electrical side needs updating. I have one ring main for the whole property, so why I am doing up the kitchen I have decided to put a separate ring main in for the kitchen, my issue is what should I do with the existing sockets in the room? should I put a blank faceplate on them? I am not sure how I can separate them from the existing ring main circuit, and utilise them in the new kitchen circuit without causing issues to the existing ring circuit.

Appreciate any advice

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[Neil73]

Hi, IMO, leave the existing circuit as is, and just create new circuit for the new.

Hi Dave, another electrician has said to me to leave the existing sockets as they're and then add another ring circuit for the new sockets i need in the kitchen, and then add a note at the consumer unit. However i was not sure if this would be a good idea, as there would be a mixture of sockets from different ring circuits in the same room?

 

[westward10]

Doesn't matter.

 

[Octopus]

Its all very well adding a note on a CU .............. but with how much detail?

So many CU's are not labelled or very poorly labelled.

Safe isolation is the key

And its not unusual in a kitchen to have 4 or more circuits.............

 

[Neil73]

Its all very well adding a note on a CU .............. but with how much detail?

So many CU's are not labelled or very poorly labelled.

Safe isolation is the key

And its not unusual in a kitchen to have 4 or more circuits.............

Sorry Murdoch i am not understanding your reply!!

Are you saying it would be ok too have too different ring circuits supplying the room, as long as the consumer unit is clearly marked?

I appreciate there would be a separate circuit for the cooker and lighting etc.

I would supply a circuit diagram of all the sockets in room color coded to which ring circuit they belong too.

 

[Taylortwocities]

He is sayin there is no problem having more than one circuit serving the sockets in the kitchen.
There is an issue of safe isolation where a circuit is denoted as “kitchen sockets” when there are multiple circuits serving the area.
You have to ask yourself what the purpose is for having a separate circuit for the kitchen. If it is to provide load relief because there are high currents bring anticipated then a new circuit may be needed (I would pull out the old ones and have all the kitchen sockets on one circuit).
Otherwise, just extend the existing circuit.

@Neil73 please please: there are several ways of typing some words. You seem to use “too” for everything, and it makes difficult reading!
If you aren’t sure the difference between too, to and two, could you help by using the figure “2” when you mean a quantity in between one and three?
Thank you.

 

[Octopus]

I would supply a circuit diagram of all the sockets in room color coded to which ring circuit they belong too.

Are you doing this for a paying customer?

 

[Midwest]

@Neil73 please please: there are several ways of typing some words. You seem to use “too” for everything, and it makes difficult reading!
If you aren’t sure the difference between too, to and two, could you help by using the figure “2” when you mean a quantity in between one and three?
Thank you.

You're being a bit picky; you wanna pull buzzlighyear, don't understand half of wot he says.

 

[Midwest]

Sorry Murdoch i am not understanding your reply!!

Are you saying it would be ok too have too different ring circuits supplying the room, as long as the consumer unit is clearly marked?

I appreciate there would be a separate circuit for the cooker and lighting etc.

I would supply a circuit diagram of all the sockets in room color coded to which ring circuit they belong too.

As others have said, no probs with more than one socket circuit in your kitchen.

However, its your house, have it how you want it. And if you moving or re-locating sockets etc, I would do as you're suggesting, and isolate existing RFC from kitchen, and add new kitchen circuit for sockets.

I would suspect a ordinary person would not expect to find sockets on different circuits in one room, and not having been trained in safe isolation, its not unlikely to cause them problems.

 

[Pete999]

You're being a bit picky; you wanna pull buzzlighyear, don't understand half of wot he says.

Agree Buzz can be a bit undecipherable at times, but we still love him.

 

[Midwest]

Aww shucks Pete

 

[Taylortwocities]

You're being a bit picky; you wanna pull buzzlighyear, don't understand half of wot he says.

My Dad was a technical author, I guess some of it rubbed off on me. Stuff like that hits me in the eye.
And don’t get me started on misuse of the apostrophe

 

[telectrix]

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potatoe's. ha'ha.

 

[Taylortwocities]