Ring main become 2 radials

[Naz]

Electrical ring circuit

The electricalian came and did the second fix. But we werent sure if all the wires had been bought through the plaster board.

All the sockets work, but we wanted to make sure there are no wires hiding in the walls.. we tested by disconnecting one of the 2 lives going into the fuse.. when we did this we tested the 11 sockets ..they all worked except the one just as you walk in the LR.. when we switch the lives at the fuse, the one in the LR room now works but the other 10 stops working.. this tells us that we have again unintensionally created two radial circuits both ending with an exposed live wire in the wall somewhere...1 radial has 1 socket .. and the other radial has the other 10.. and we have a break between socket 10 and 11.. any suggestions how to resolve?

Is it be to remove the outgoing cable in the single radial.. and then find where the rouge outgoing wire is in the other 10 sockets..

 

[buzzlightyear]

Maybe i should correct my numbering

1 to 10 works

13 works

11 and 12 are behind a wall somewhere with the 2.5mm cut

A solution is to make to radials

1 to 10 on one and 13 on the other.. the issue is 10 has a live feed going out of it (that should go to socket 11 but instead goes is behind plasterboard somewherel) and socket 13 has a live going out of it that should go to 12 but again goes behind a wall somewhere

I see the fishing rods out ,but his fish don't bite .

 

[MJPD29]

You have the right idea testing the circuit but the way your going about it isn't correct and I'm not sure you have the right gear. Might be best to get a different electrician in to have a look

 

[MJPD29]

You have the right idea testing the circuit but the way your going about it isn't correct and I'm not sure you have the right gear. Might be best to get a different electrician in to have a look

 

[buzzlightyear]

Buzz.. 2 electricians

what was their names ,tom. dick now where's harry .

 

[buzzlightyear]

try trade and standards if you have no joy, I'm out .

 

[mickfred]

Your spark no 2 did not figure of 8 test it (or test it at all) . It's his problem to sort . You can get him to change it two radial if you want . But a radial with one socket is not ideal and mcbs need changing most likely

 

[Naz]

what was their names ,tom. dick now where's harry .

try trade and standards if you have no joy, I'm o

Your spark no 2 did not figure of 8 test it (or test it at all) . It's his problem to sort . You can get him to change it two radial if you want . But a radial with one socket is not ideal and mcbs need changing most likely

Like i said sparks to charges by the hour. So even though its his problem to solve, ill end up payig for it. And its also my fault as i should have known where all the sockets were..

I could get hom to kill socket 13 alltogether, and then its just a matter of getting him to go round socketa 1 to 10 to see which cable out is going into thin air. If he diconnects that one then at least i wont have a live hidden behind a plaster board somewhere

 

[mickfred]

This is my last comment . You have paid for a safe install , he has not done it. If it was my mistake I would be glad just to be allowed to fix it and not a lecture of how I could have killed some one or burnt the house down . Again if it was me I would be saying sorry and dropping a few quid for your time not asking to be paid for mine . I don't know if you have done this or not and I cant tell you what or how to do it but the MCB needs looking at (most likely a 32a and for a radial in 2.5 will not be suitable)

 

[buzzlightyear]

Just to clarify did you not want to pay for the said spark .charging you by the hour considering you said you should have known where the sockets were.i rest my case.

 

[123]

So why have you given me an “old” ?

Very odd

I wouldn't worry. @buzzlightyear has given them a bad spelling which has to be the funniest rating of the year so far

 

[123]

@Naz why is the original Spark no longer on the job?

 

[Naz]

Just to clarify did you not want to pay for the said spark .charging you by the hour considering you said you should have known where the sockets were.i rest my case.

I have paid him.. i said i cant completly blame him as i have got him in to do the second fix ...its not his fault that i cant tell him where the cables are behind the wall.

Granted, that when turning on the ring circuit he should have cheacked that it was actually a ring and the live that is leaving the consumer unit is actually reuturning and not simply creating two rafial circuits each finishing in the plasterboard somewhere

Anyway buzz... you seem to like taking the p here. ... i am not an electrician (im actaully a banker, with a maths degree) .. nor am i trying to be.. i have got an electrician in.. an electrician who tells me that he has just paid 7k fees to get qualifited...a nice guy....as mick said people make mistakes thats life .. if i was doing a cowboy job myself, i wouldnt be asking here for your opinion.. id simply pull out the live wites leaving the last socket in each of the 2 radials kowing that there are no live wires in the wall..but like i said im not an electrican so thought id ask you.. and feed back any tips to the electrican who is starting out in his career.

 

[Naz]

@Naz why is the original Spark no longer on the job?

I fell out woth him.. during the first fix, he left telling us to plasterboard the ceiling without pulling through the cables for for the lights.. on starting the second fix he complained that he couldnt find the cables.. a problem i told him might happen when he originally instructed us to plasterboard without pulling the cables through..

 

[elsparko]

I fell out woth him.. during the first fix, he left telling us to plasterboard the ceiling without pulling through the cables for for the lights.. on starting the second fix he complained that he couldnt find the cables.. a problem i told him might happen when he originally instructed us to plasterboard without pulling the cables through..

fill me a bin bag of £50s and ill come sort it for you

 

[gazdkw82]

What an odd post.