Rogue Traders

[D Skelton]

I'm not quite sure what it's about yet but it looks like we have a rogue sparks on tonights Rogue Traders/Watchdog. Could be interesting.

 

[DaveyD]

Wonder if the reporter charges if he turns up and cant fing the rouge?

 

[GLENNSPARK]

I'm not quite sure what it's about yet but it looks like we have a rogue sparks on tonights Rogue Traders/Watchdog. Could be interesting.

It`l be purvs masquerading as sparks rummeging around in knicker draws n stuff....might see someone i know...lol....:drool5:

 

[D Skelton]

What is it with so called 'experts' and earthing back boxes?!?!?

 

[kung]

The thing is it's hard to get registered. I can't get work because I'm not registered and I can't register because I can't get the work to show an inspector. Catch 22
Nic want 5 jobs before they'll give me approved contractor status

I do think if people have those problems there should be a facillity to go to a scheme ops site and spend a day or so in a purpose built unit to prove comp

 

[trev]

I do think if people have those problems there should be a facillity to go to a scheme ops site and spend a day or so in a purpose built unit to prove comp

I'm offering myself to local builders and estate agents for three tenths of bugger all just as long as the'll let me show the work to an inspector.
I feel like I'm a prostitute , lol

 

[GLENNSPARK]

I do think if people have those problems there should be a facillity to go to a scheme ops site and spend a day or so in a purpose built unit to prove comp

All very well but this unit would have to simulate problems encountered on site such as the borrowed neutral and awquard access etc....

 

[kung]

Make sure you wipe the lipstick off and change clothing before your assessment !

 

[High Tower]

As usual they only point out the bits that are negative and critisise all of it, they were making a point about the second guy painstakingly checking all of the terminals on the MCB's, granted he took forever to do it and was dithering like mad, but they were out of order pointing this out. If i was called out to this job although i would go straight to the board, i too would check all the terminations, given the nature of the fault. so now every time we go around checking terminations we will be accused of being a rouge trader.

 

[robsparky1975]

The thing is it's hard to get registered. I can't get work because I'm not registered and I can't register because I can't get the work to show an inspector. Catch 22
Nic want 5 jobs before they'll give me approved contractor status

You dont have to be with the niceic,you could choose many others,im with elecsa,only took him to a cu change,once they see you know your stuff thats it,the niceic are not helpful and need to realise some people need a foot on the ladder,this is why i went to elecsa,perhaps you could do a cu change any other part p notifiable works for friends/neighbours or family for a discounted rate to get up and running.you can tell labc before job commences and then once you get registered yourself dont need to speak to them anymore.

 

[kung]

All very well but this unit would have to simulate problems encountered on site such as the borrowed neutral and awquard access etc....

Quite right and im sure if it was rightly purpose built it should take into account most cases !

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Well today was a good example.....RCD random tripping at a house in gledhow (leeds)....so gets in and asks her the usual questions , like when appliances are used and if RCD trips at specific times of day (central heating or other timed devices) etc and no luck there....goes to the board to find a loose neutral on the RCD side.....so i thinks better to be safe than sorry and IR all circuits in RCD side for my own peace of mind and find low IR between line-neutral on the shower circuit. Now admittedly i know this wouldn`t affect the RCD but as it was found we isolated the shower until wee can get back and pull a new one in. The lady said she had an electrician out previously who couldn`t find the fault and i`m only an apprentice. The shower cable was only 4mm and the board had NIC stickers on it.........

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Quite right and im sure if it was rightly purpose built it should take into account most cases !

Agreed Kung and i think its a good idea in principle.....

 

[kung]

Just checking when was this Rogue Traders on and what channel ?
Thanks !

 

[DPG]

It was Watchdog - about an hour ago. Daz

 

[SBTEAM]

You dont have to be with the niceic,you could choose many others,im with elecsa,only took him to a cu change,once they see you know your stuff thats it,the niceic are not helpful and need to realise some people need a foot on the ladder,this is why i went to elecsa,perhaps you could do a cu change any other part p notifiable works for friends/neighbours or family for a discounted rate to get up and running.you can tell labc before job commences and then once you get registered yourself dont need to speak to them anymore.

I'M sorry but i disagree with the NICEIC are not helpful, i'm in the NIC and the ECA (the ECA own ELECSA)
and not only find the NICEIC very helpful but also help me win alot of work. For example when the part P
came out, not once have i been asked if i was part P, but asked if i was NIC instead, as the consumer knows of the NICEIC alot more than any of the others, hence members of the others being on a back foot straight away having to explain they are Part P but not NICEIC.
It makes me laugh because the niceic is no harder to be a member as elecsa or napit and is the same price for domestic installer, dont get me wrong i wish it was harder as it would have even more prestige about it.
And as the other guy says about catch 22, its easy like robsparky says do a cu for a friend/family test it correctly with the correct paper work, then put an outside socket at your own house as a second job makin sure both jobs are done to the current bs7671 and heypresto you could be signed up with the NICEIC lol.