Ross Kemp and the Armed please

[MDJ]

So they chased him onto a train and shot him 5 times in the face with a pack of sandwiches and a copy of the sun in his rucksack?

 

[solarsavings]

Their xray specs had fallen off in the chase.

 

[MDJ]

So they chased him onto a train and shot him 5 times in the face with a pack of sandwiches and a copy of the sun in his rucksack?

Their xray specs had fallen off in the chase.

Very Funny, in fact hilarious, I am sure his family will laugh at your very funny Joke, haha.

 

[GMES]

The armed police have been in Meadowhall for a while now so I think people are just used to them. I did think about the innocent victims when I was commenting and probably shouldn't have put it.

It's fine mate, I'm all for letting the lowlife wiping each other out but it's the poor innocent ones that get hurt.

 

[Nigel]

So they chased him onto a train and shot him 5 times in the face with a pack of sandwiches and a copy of the sun in his rucksack?

I have no doubt that those officers honestly believed they done the right thing.

 

[MDJ]

I have no doubt that those officers honestly believed they done the right thing.

Well they ended up in court, and to be fair they got away with it, but they were removed from fire arm duty and were told they would never be allowed to use a gun again, so make that as you will

 

[Nigel]

Well they ended up in court, and to be fair they got away with it, but they were removed from fire arm duty and were told they would never be allowed to use a gun again, so make that as you will

A completely sensible decision. Their ability to make a decision on whether to shoot or not would be massively compromised in the future.

 

[MDJ]

out of interest neil whats your defence regarding Ian Tomlinson?

 

[Nigel]

out of interest neil whats your defence regarding Ian Tomlinson?

No defence at all. I think the officer used a completely unjustifiable use of force.

 

[MDJ]

No defence at all. I think the officer used a completely unjustifiable use of force.

Okay cheers, just wondered.

 

[Nigel]

Okay cheers, just wondered.

I think the two situations are completely different.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

So they chased him onto a train and shot him 5 times in the face with a pack of sandwiches and a copy of the sun in his rucksack?

Very Funny, in fact hilarious, I am sure his family will laugh at your very funny Joke, haha.

He wasn’t chased, he was followed.
An undercover officer grabbed hold of him in a bear hug after alerting armed officers to his location.
Armed officers then dragged the undercover officer away, two officers then pinned Mendez down in his seat one either side holding on to his arms.
He was shot 7 times at point blank range, though 11 shots were fired.
Stephen Waldorf was shot 5 times in the Mayfair Mini shooting. Again 11 shots in total were fired in that incident.
The driver of the Mini and the other passenger were not hit.

What I find most worrying in the Mendez incident, is that 4 of the shots fired at point blank range, missed.

In the Waldorf incident, 2 shots were fired at a wheel of the Mini, the other 9 into the passenger compartment.
Again 4 shots missed.
One of the officers attempted to shoot Waldorf in the head at point blank range, but was unaware he had already discharged all 6 rounds from his revolver.

Both incidents took place in crowded public areas and it is a miracle that bystanders were not injured.

 

[Nigel]

He wasn’t chased, he was followed.
An undercover officer grabbed hold of him in a bear hug after alerting armed officers to his location.
Armed officers then dragged the undercover officer away, two officers then pinned Mendez down in his seat one either side holding on to his arms.
He was shot 7 times at point blank range, though 11 shots were fired.
Stephen Waldorf was shot 5 times in the Mayfair Mini shooting. Again 11 shots in total were fired in that incident.
The driver of the Mini and the other passenger were not hit.

What I find most worrying in the Mendez incident, is that 4 of the shots fired at point blank range, missed.

In the Waldorf incident, 2 shots were fired at a wheel of the Mini, the other 9 into the passenger compartment.
Again 4 shots missed.
One of the officers attempted to shoot Waldorf in the head at point blank range, but was unaware he had already discharged all 6 rounds from his revolver.

Both incidents took place in crowded public areas and it is a miracle that bystanders were not injured.

Could be a miracle or could be highly trained.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Could be a miracle or could be highly trained.

I would think their seeing eye dogs need further training.

 

[Nigel]

I would think their seeing eye dogs need further training.

Shame you feel that way. It must be so hard to ahave been there and make that decision.