Rules on testing

[Octopus]

Msparks, if you want to certify someone else's Part P notifiable work then you have to become a "registered third-party certifier" by being accredited as a competent person by a "third-party certification scheme". Note that this is separate from being a "registered competent person" with a self-certification scheme although both schemes are run by the same companies.

This has only been the case since last month.

See https://www.gov.uk/third-party-certification-schemes-for-domestic-electrical-work

Ok.now point us at anyone who operates such a scheme! Elecsa and the niceic have stated they won't run such schemes

 

[Msparks]

Thanks for the info all. I have been called mad and stupid before Murdoch but for other things, in this case I have done lots of testing but never cert's and in those cases I was working for a company with other sparkys so never got to fill in a test sheet.

 

[TedM]

Murdoch, as it says on that page: BSI, NAPIT and Stroma have agreed to run the schemes. Elecsa and NICEIC have other axes to grind.

This change only applies in England BTW. Wales and Scotland are excepted.

 

[Octopus]

Murdoch, as it says on that page: BSI, NAPIT and Stroma have agreed to run the schemes. Elecsa and NICEIC have other axes to grind.

This change only applies in England BTW. Wales and Scotland are excepted.

Live and learn something new every day.... not that I want to pay EVEN more money to a scheme or test other sparks work....


EDIT: Just read this on the Napit site:

"NAPIT membership includes third party inspection and testing as long as the member is fully qualified and has the relevant experience to carry out this service and is present at first & second fix. When completing the Electrical Installation Certificate, in the case of a 3-part certificate only the 'inspection and testing' portion should be completed, if using the NAPIT Electrical Certificate you should indicate in the 'limitations' section that the certificate does not cover design or construction. In each case the details of the installer should be included on the certificate.

Please note that this approach should not be used to notify work under Part P as this is not allowed. See the question & answer below. Members carrying out third party inspecting and testing must also have £250,000 of Professional Indemnity Insurance which is a separate policy from Public Liability. For details of our discounted insurance please contact our Customer Services team on 0845 543 0330 ."

So that infers you can't just be called in earlier and need to be present to inspect the earlier stages.

Wonder how many people are signing up?

 

[TedM]

That's a strange thing for NAPIT to say as that is the whole point of the new scheme - that a person other than the installer can notify BC via a scheme.

I would guess that NAPIT haven't updated their website on this at present and that things will become clearer once they do.

 

[Octopus]

That's a strange thing for NAPIT to say as that is the whole point of the new scheme - that a person other than the installer can notify BC via a scheme.

I would guess that NAPIT haven't updated their website on this at present and that things will become clearer once they do.

I don't read it that way! The way I read it that Napit members can sign off somebody elses work BUT NOT use the scheme for notification - and if this is the case what is the point of this???

 

[Meggerman]

I don't read it that way! The way I read it that Napit members can sign off somebody elses work BUT NOT use the scheme for notification - and if this is the case what is the point of this???

3rd party certification has been on NAPIT for years, but it is not for notifiable works, as Part P was self certification . The 3rd Party Part P Sign off if a new thing that NIC / ECA have rejected and as far as I was aware no other scheme seems to offer it yet..