Safe plates...

[sythai]

Anyone use 'safe plates' with success.

Seen them years ago but always thought a bit naff due to boards not being able to be laid flush after in place?

Just concerned the chippy laying the chip board floor will rip them all up!

Want to use them as secondary form of protection on an armoured submain I can only notch in and can't RCD.

Thanks Sy

 

[sythai]

Alternatively run it around the edges where it is likely the space will not be used?

Loft conversion.... roof coming off and new one put on so these now become floor joists, double and tripled up in some places. Obviously double checked with builder first and also agreed max notch depth of 25mm.

Would have normally gone round the edge, but one side is being opened right up/ vaulted ground floor to first and the other side is one big dormer with no loft void. So was a bit limited really.

 

[telectrix]

those timbers look pretty meaty anyway, not like the usual roof trusses that block the whole area with struts because they use the smallest possible timbers that they can get away with.

 

[VoltzElectrical]

having looked at the pictures and read the posts, personally I would have left a few meters of SWA coiled up to clip the final run round the edge after the alterations. Posting pictures of works done/ in progress will always result in better solutions or different ways of doing things though.

 

[Silly Sausage]

Loft conversion.... roof coming off and new one put on so these now become floor joists, double and tripled up in some places.

In that case, wouldn't it have been better to wait until the new joists were in place, then do your notching?

 

[sythai]

In that case, wouldn't it have been better to wait until the new joists were in place, then do your notching?

New joists were in place.... Came along and notched out after

 

[Silly Sausage]

See them now...Sorry mate!

 

[GLENNSPARK]

safe places contain no light.....

 

[telectrix]

safe places usually contain cash and jewellery.

 

[Silly Sausage]

safe places contain no light.....

Is Glenn revealing his dark hippy side???
The Sensory Deprivation Tank - Joe Rogan - YouTube

 

[telectrix]

deprived or depraved?

 

[EastAnglian]

Though it looks from the photos that the notches are not in the 0.08 - 25% zone of the span of the beam, as required by Part A of the Building Regs - and to which Part P refers.

Read all about it here:

http://www.haringey.gov.uk/note07_-_domestic_timber_floors.pdf

 

[sythai]

Though it looks from the photos that the notches are not in the 0.08 - 25% zone of the span of the beam, as required by Part A of the Building Regs - and to which Part P refers.

Read all about it here:

http://www.haringey.gov.uk/note07_-_domestic_timber_floors.pdf

Will be close..... but position marked and agreed with builder beforehand so over to him on that one.

Think they'll have more to worry about when the plumber turns up and starts on his notching.

He's really is going to have fun: 2 x ensuites going in the same area with timbers originally put in a 400 centres and some are now tripled up so doesn't leave much room for manoeuvre!

 

[Jimmyb]

was just going to say the same.

 

[Sharpend]

Not sure that the builder has final say on where you notch? The safe notching zones are governed by building regs and are reference in our regs.

Most plumbers these says use plastic pipe so should be a problem.

 

[EastAnglian]

Will be close..... but position marked and agreed with builder beforehand so over to him on that one.

Think they'll have more to worry about when the plumber turns up and starts on his notching.

Unfortunately its not quite that simple .... assuming you are the person who is going to complete the EIC and register the job with Building Control then you will be signing to say that everything complies, not the builder!

However, as you say, what we sparkies do with notching and drilling is as nothing compared to the wholesale butchery that the plumbers get up to. I really can't figure how they get away with most of the 'carpentry' they do when installing pipes.