Salon backwash unit

[Risteard]

I got a call late on Friday from a salon owner who is due to reopen in about a week's time. She had someone in doing work but then got rid of him as she didn't trust him. I suspect he was a handyman or something like that.

Anyhow, they have two chairs where they will have backwash units. She has two Triton 8.5kW electric showers to fit to these for washing fair. Personally I don't believe that an electric shower intended for domestic use is likely to be the best solution for this, but that's another issue.

Basically these shower units cannot be fixed to the wall behind the chairs as the hose is likely to create a tripping hazard. She wants them bolted to the chairs, however these have slightly curved surfaces as opposed to being flat. I was thinking perhaps a sheet of paxolin bolted to these to give a flat surface for the shower unit to sit on, however someone may have a better idea. (Or may have a better solution than these electric shower units!)

She seems to have in her head that this can be ready by Tuesday which is frankly ridiculous as deliveries don't tend to be quite so speedy at present. (Not sure why she thinks it needs to be ready for Tuesday when she doesn't open until the following Monday either.)

 

[Risteard]

be OK till she swivels the chair round to give the lady client a shave.

LOL. I don't believe it swivels. And is to be bolted to the floor I'm led to believe. So it would just have forward and backward movement, with the base part having no movement.

 

[ferg]

I think I'd suddenly find myself with a full diary for that one.

Chair mounted showers to finish off a job started by a handyman.....

I can picture myself running a mile from that.

 

[davesparks]

The hairdresser I go to has 2 of the hair wash stations along with a kitchen sink all fed from a 15L 3kw unvented water heater which is adequate for the 3 hairdressers working in that salon.

I don't see how 2x 8kW units can be in any way economical or energy efficient.

 

[buzzlightyear]

What a knit piker or head cratcher reading this post . If you are not happy wash you hands with it.lol.

 

[bigspark17]

The hairdresser I go to has 2 of the hair wash stations along with a kitchen sink all fed from a 15L 3kw unvented water heater which is adequate for the 3 hairdressers working in that salon.

I don't see how 2x 8kW units can be in any way economical or energy efficient.

well for a start you are only paying for what you use. Water heating via electric is never going to be cheap, the unveted tank would continually be Keeping the water up to temperature and possibly the Water would not get used.

 

[Risteard]

I don't see how 2x 8kW units can be in any way economical or energy efficient.

Unquestionably it's neither energy efficient nor economical. That's part of the reason why I don't get the logic of it.

 

[Andy78]

Unquestionably it's neither energy efficient nor economical. That's part of the reason why I don't get the logic of it.

People get ideas in their head and don't like to change.

 

[davesparks]

well for a start you are only paying for what you use. Water heating via electric is never going to be cheap, the unveted tank would continually be Keeping the water up to temperature and possibly the Water would not get used.

Unvented water heaters are well insulated so that they only loose a tiny amount of heat in 24 hours, I can't remember the exact figure but on one I fitted last week it was surprisingly small.

The heat loss from unused water is very small and I would expect the unvented heater option to have better overall economy and energy efficiency.

 

[bigspark17]

Sorry @davesparks i dont think there would be much init economically probably slightly in favour of the instantaneous. & from the salon owners point of view running out or having no hot water is a nightmare and very unprofessional as hair that is coloured or wet cut cannot be done Snd the business losses money And the tank always runs that risk. 15L is not a huge amount!

as a side note if a house had a sink In the kitchen and a basin In The bathroom would you prefer a 120L tank heated off imersion being used or a 10kw instantaneous water heater for economical purposes?

 

[mattg4321]

I’d never choose instantaneous option if I had a choice. Inherently more dangerous, looks crap, flow is crap, unreliable, expensive to run.

Combi boiler would probably be ideal in the salon. Wonder what type of heating the place has. If electric then max demand must be getting very close to 100A.

 

[Vortigern]

Advice on water heater for hair salon

Hi Guys and gals, I based in Birmingham, UK. I have 2 wash basins and need to get a overhead water heater, any ideas? I've seen Salon Master but pretty expensive. Any advice/help, greatly appreciated. Thanks.

www.salongeek.com

How about that

 

[rapparee]

Atlantic Under Sink Water Heater 15 Litre

Electric water heaters SMALL CAPACITIES thanks to their small dimensions can be installed on or under the sink.<br>They are easy to use thanks to the operating indicator light and the indicator wheel temperature.

www.mcmahons.ie

I've fitted one of these a few weeks ago to feed 4 wash hand basins.

It heats up quick enough to service the women's toilets, so pretty constant use. Even peak times like lunchtime etc.

 

[telectrix]

Atlantic Under Sink Water Heater 15 Litre

Electric water heaters SMALL CAPACITIES thanks to their small dimensions can be installed on or under the sink.<br>They are easy to use thanks to the operating indicator light and the indicator wheel temperature.

www.mcmahons.ie

I've fitted one of these a few weeks ago to feed 4 wash hand basins.

It heats up quick enough to service the women's toilets, so pretty constant use. Even peak times like lunchtime etc.

is that so the women can get hot flushes?

 

[rapparee]

is that so the women can get hot flushes?

Going by the age of them, they're well capable of that themselves.

 

[Risteard]

Should have updated this.

She rang yesterday morning (after trying to phone on Saturday morning, despite me telling her that the wholesalers would not be open again until Monday due to reduced hours with respect to COVID-19 - I didn't answer the Saturday morning call).

I told her that I didn't see mounting shower units to the chairs as an option as the chairs were not designed for this purpose, but were intended for a hot water feed ran into them. She told me that this was the way she had always done them, and I answered that I appreciated that, but it still wasn't the intention of the manufacturers of either the chair or the shower.

She said she would think about it and get back to me. I've heard nothing since.