Pete's Videos Say it like it is Mate

[Pete999]

 

[Midwest]

Wonder how long before this thread gets closed.

Surprised it's lasted so long. However, the debate is starting, isn't that what a forum is about. And it is Sunday.

 

[Barry White]

So in order to dissuade and punish the undesirable customs of other cultures we should employ and embrace the undesirable customs of other cultures ?

I think the point is "when in Rome do as the Romans do" We have to adhere and respect laws we don't always agree with or are used to in other countries.If not we have to face the consequences (Barbaric or not) But sometimes in the UK we bend over backwards far too much to folk who do not integrate into our society.Some integrate well but some want it both ways. Our laws when it suits and their laws when it suits.
The law is a written rule and can be interpreted differently but should not be bent to protect other races or creeds.

Sometimes I feel like a second class citizen in my home country.

 

[Midwest]

I bet that poor little lad lying dead on the beach, never had a bad word to say about anyone. He might have done, if he had lived and when he became older. But only if he'd listened to people like the guy in the vid.

''No one is born hating another person because of the colour of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.” Nelson Mandela

Edit, grammer

 

[Andy78]

I think the point is "when in Rome do as the Romans do" We have to adhere and respect laws we don't always agree with or are used to in other countries.If not we have to face the consequences (Barbaric or not) But sometimes in the UK we bend over backwards far too much to folk who do not integrate into our society.Some integrate well but some want it both ways. Our laws when it suits and their laws when it suits.
The law is a written rule and can be interpreted differently but should not be bent to protect other races or creeds.

Sometimes I feel like a second class citizen in my home country.

I have never felt like a second class citizen in my own country, nor been given any cause to feel that way. I suppose that's all down to perception.
Can you give me a documented example of any time when a UK court has overruled UK law in favour of a law from another country cited by a defendant to substantiate your claim of "Our laws when it suits and their laws when it suits" ?

I'm all for sensible debate, but I find it hard to debate issues based on hearsay and anecdote.

 

[telectrix]

that guy in the video might be a bit extreme, but nowhere near as extreme as the muslim hate preachers. inciting young men(and women) to kill in the name of their god.

 

[Andy78]

that guy in the video might be a bit extreme, but nowhere near as extreme as the muslim hate preachers. inciting young men(and women) to kill in the name of their god.

But the other side of the same coin nonetheless. There are Muslim hate preachers, there are Christian hate preachers. There is cultural intolerance and bigoted ideology on all sides.

 

[Diddy]

that guy in the video might be a bit extreme, but nowhere near as extreme as the muslim hate preachers. inciting young men(and women) to kill in the name of their god.

Oh come on telectrix you can do better than that surely ? That sort of statement I expect from my 4 year old niece when she informs me that although she has been naughty it is not as naughty as X. I can honestly remember trying these arguments against my unimpressed parents....and 40 odd years on they still don't work lol

 

[Diddy]

This video sums up my thoughts almost entirely tbh.

 

[Midwest]

Oh come on telectrix you can do better than that surely ? That sort of statement I expect from my 4 year old niece when she informs me that although she has been naughty it is not as naughty as X. I can honestly remember trying these arguments against my unimpressed parents....and 40 odd years on they still don't work lol

I think Tels referring to the likes of Anjem Choudhary & the like, who IMO are evil people, who twist young peoples minds. But then we have rhetoric from people like Trump proposing to build walls & fences. Listening to that guy in the vid, is quite disturbing. He seems to be referring to criminals, but I'm not quite so sure.

 

[Pat H]

Quite Diddy. Its just policing and crime. Full stop. It applies to everyone. We are just seeing the pedo operations in our youth football clubs coming to light. Is that any less worse? Not Muslims so maybe its ok?

 

[Diddy]

Thats all fine Midwest and i suspect you are correct...but the point I was trying to make is we have plenty of our own scumbags why separate ours from theirs ? I wouldn't say our pedo's are any better or worse than theirs same for any criminal. One point I would make is that I would wholeheartedly agree that the government should use it's resources to ship any convicted criminals out of the country - apparently the legislation is already there but for whatever reason it is rarely used.

 

[Midwest]

One point I would make is that I would wholeheartedly agree that the government should use it's resources to ship any convicted criminals out of the country - apparently the legislation is already there but for whatever reason it is rarely used.

If you lived in a village, would you want your thief back?

 

[Diddy]

If you lived in a village, would you want your thief back?

Nope but I do believe that to be granted permanent residence in a country not of your birth is not a "right" it is more of a privilege which can be revoked. Just the way I see it really. I do think a persons country has or should have ultimate responsibility over their welfare.....weather that means keeping them healthy or keeping them locked up for their own and others safety, I still feel on balance that an offenders country should deal with any fallout and cleanup....if that is the right word Im not sure.

 

[Pete999]

Some of these countries are barbaric, I wonder how the PC brigade would react to being forced to watch a Woman getting stoned for allegedly committing adultery, I was and it'sfar from being a good experience

just thinking about what would happen to us, practising our customs and religion in a muslim country. it's a 2 way street, but these muslims seem to think it's all 1 way.

Absobl--dylutely

 

[The Ghost]

Be interesting to see what you all have to say ten years down the line. Maybe even five.