Scottish Referendum

[Guest77]

Carrying on from the conversation with Murdoch, Why isn't the whole UK allowed to vote on the scottish issue? it after all effects everyone of us.

 

[Octopus]

A very good question - after all we may want to get rid of them!!

 

[Guest77]

A pretty major thing for the whole UK though, and yet 5 million people out of 64 million and some are 16 years old get to decide our future, another tory blunder

 

[Octopus]

A pretty major thing for the whole UK though, and yet 5 million people out of 64 million and some are 16 years old get to decide our future, another tory blunder

Wasn't that something Salmond did?

 

[Marvo]

What's the sentiment in the UK? Glad to see them go maybe, or not?

 

[jimmymac]

I believe so Murdoch. To be honest i'm not a big fan of uncle Alex but having lived on both sides of the border I've gotta say that I prefer it up here

 

[Octopus]

What's the sentiment in the UK? Glad to see them go maybe, or not?

To be honest Marvo, its a bit like the EU issue - I'm dammed sure, that we the public, are not being told the whole story, or the pros or the cons

 

[Guest77]

I wonder what will happen if they vote yes, we will still have a joint armed force, still have joint businesses, still share road and rail routes and share costs, I cannot see it working, unless the rest of what is left of the UK refuses to pay anything towards an independant scotland they will have the best of both worlds whilst the rest of us pay for it. If Scotland remains in the UK then they still have the best of it with MPs in westminster and their own parliament, yet they control their own taxes and rules and laws, we cannot win either way Andy so it is a tough question to answer.

 

[Octopus]

I believe so Murdoch. To be honest i'm not a big fan of uncle Alex but having lived on both sides of the border I've gotta say that I prefer it up here

I've a lage chunk of scottish in me and family and friends north of the border. My cousins kids have all enjoyed FREE university education and my elderly relatives FREE care..... unlike my mum who paid £6K/month

 

[Guest77]

Wasn't that something Salmond did?

Yes he knows the youngsters are taught to hate the English at school and has jumped on it to get himself as Scotlands first President, he is only interested in himself and not his fellow Scots, the man is a weasel.

 

[jimmymac]

I've a lage chunk of scottish in me and family and friends north of the border. My cousins kids have all enjoyed FREE university education and my elderly relatives FREE care..... unlike my mum who paid £6K/month

Agreed, the HNC which I've just completed cost me £1200 all together, down in England it would have been £9000. Now I have the opportunity to do the HND which will cost a further £1200. That means it is more than 15 grand cheaper!

 

[Octopus]

Agreed, the HNC which I've just completed cost me £1200 all together, down in England it would have been £9000. Now I have the opportunity to do the HND which will cost a further £1200. That means it is more than 15 grand cheaper!

Which was funded courtsey of the Barnet Formula........

 

[Guest77]

I wonder how many Scots were supporting Italy yesterday? If Scotland were playing Italy, I wonder how many English would support them? are we really united? and should we try to strengthen our relationship?

 

[Dcf]

Yes he knows the youngsters are taught to hate the English at school and has jumped on it to get himself as Scotlands first President, he is only interested in himself and not his fellow Scots, the man is a weasel.

I certainly wasn't taught at school to hate the English.
Don't know where the idea that we get everything for free came from but that's not the case.
if you are a jakey dosser using every social service known to man then maybe.
if you have a bob or two then no you will pay.
if we are such a burden on English finances why the dirty trick campaign to keep us in the union?
If the best the better together campaign can come up with is negative scare stories then they have lost already.
one of the latest was that the cost of electricity was going to triple as it would be spread over 5m customers rather than 60m.fair enough.
the only fly in the ointment was that Scotland has been a net exporter of electricity for years!
so when I read all the daily scare stories I take them all with a pinch of salt.
i am no Scottish nationalist but would we be any worse off?
I don't think so

 

[Guest77]

I certainly wasn't taught at school to hate the English.
Don't know where the idea that we get everything for free came from but that's not the case.
if you are a jakey dosser using every social service known to man then maybe.
if you have a bob or two then no you will pay.
if we are such a burden on English finances why the dirty trick campaign to keep us in the union?
If the best the better together campaign can come up with is negative scare stories then they have lost already.
one of the latest was that the cost of electricity was going to triple as it would be spread over 5m customers rather than 60m.fair enough.
the only fly in the ointment was that Scotland has been a net exporter of electricity for years!
so when I read all the daily scare stories I take them all with a pinch of salt.
i am no Scottish nationalist but would we be any worse off?
I don't think so

My dad goes to scotland at least once a year but usually twice, he loves it up there, he has been on trips to where the fights between the scots and the english happened 800 years ago and has heard school teachers telling children as young as 7 or 8 how horrible we were then and still are today, he has even challenged one teacher who went bright red and had to apologise to him in front of the kids, and he has heard teenagers in pubs saying they hate us, yep hate and they were just kids, so it happens. regarding the dirty tricks, can you expand, I haven't heard anything here TBH and am interested in this, cheers.