Scottish Referendum

[mayfair]

If they do it i hope they do it properly Passports to be shown etc no cheap rate calls through the BT tower etc Think a lot of misinformed Jocks think braveheart was a real deal and not some hollywood film. I cant stand it when they start shouting againt England they'd be foofed without us as would the welsh. Let them all go. to me a scot is as foriegn as a Spaniard. If they want to hate us give them something to hate us for let them pay for everything

 

[Guest77]

I certainly wasn't taught at school to hate the English.
Don't know where the idea that we get everything for free came from but that's not the case.
if you are a jakey dosser using every social service known to man then maybe.
if you have a bob or two then no you will pay.
if we are such a burden on English finances why the dirty trick campaign to keep us in the union?
If the best the better together campaign can come up with is negative scare stories then they have lost already.
one of the latest was that the cost of electricity was going to triple as it would be spread over 5m customers rather than 60m.fair enough.
the only fly in the ointment was that Scotland has been a net exporter of electricity for years!
so when I read all the daily scare stories I take them all with a pinch of salt.
i am no Scottish nationalist but would we be any worse off?
I don't think so

I think you would be yes, you could not trade with europe as you wouldn't be allowed in the EU, the free parking and prescriptions you get now would have to go surely as you will have to fund yourselves and Salmond is telling porkies regarding North sea oil, it belongs to BP and Norway oil, I cannot imagine BP just handing over the rigs and kit can you? What about the ship yards and naval and airforce bases which employ thousands up there? what about the businesses which survive around the Naval and airforce bases? Should Scotland leave the union the ship yards and military bases will move south and you will lose out won't you?

 

[mayfair]

Cost of Scotish Holidays to europe will also go up as the will have to pay to fly through ENGLISH airspace

 

[Guest77]

What gets me is it is all about them, we would all be better off financially in the short term if we were 4 independent countries, but would we be better off regarding security and long term prosperity, The scots are vertually independent now, they have politicians in the English and Scottish and European parliaments and are free to control their own taxes, but it isn't enough for 42% of them, I hope the 58% who want to remain with us, vote the same way in September.

 

[Dcf]

Dirty tricks.the Grangemouth fiasco started over a union rep and the day"saved" by mr Cameron himself.
the redrawing of Scottish territorial waters that makes England have waters as far up as Dundee taking in about 10 oil fields .yeah there will be few more before September.
the oil firms pay tax to operate in the North Sea.
revenue the uk wants to keep obviously.
as for defence we wouldn't really need much in the way of armed forces as the bases have been getting run down since the end of the Cold War anyway.
when a Russian warship sailed into uk waters last year there wasn't a navy ship in Scotland
they sent one up to intercept it from Portsmouth!
there is one yard left on the Clyde and the dockyard at rosyth and that is it.
when the sub base at faslane closes we could maybe offer the base to the Russians or Chinese who would love a base on British soil I would think.that would put the cat amongst the pigeons.

 

[Guest77]

Dirty tricks.the Grangemouth fiasco started over a union rep and the day"saved" by mr Cameron himself.
the redrawing of Scottish territorial waters that makes England have waters as far up as Dundee taking in about 10 oil fields .yeah there will be few more before September.
the oil firms pay tax to operate in the North Sea.
revenue the uk wants to keep obviously.
as for defence we wouldn't really need much in the way of armed forces as the bases have been getting run down since the end of the Cold War anyway.
when a Russian warship sailed into uk waters last year there wasn't a navy ship in Scotland
they sent one up to intercept it from Portsmouth!
there is one yard left on the Clyde and the dockyard at rosyth and that is it.
when the sub base at faslane closes we could maybe offer the base to the Russians or Chinese who would love a base on British soil I would think.that would put the cat amongst the pigeons.

That would never happen lol

 

[mayfair]

when the sub base at faslane closes we could maybe offer the base to the Russians or Chinese who would love a base on British soil I would think.that would put the cat amongst the pigeons.
Think NATO might have something to say about that never mind England. Enoght crap comes out of Salmonds mouth without the rest of the scots starting and BTW it wouldnt be British soil it would be scotish soil as i said if your out your out

 

[Dcf]

Stranger things have happened mike!

 

[mayfair]

So the chinese take aways will have to start selling deep fried mars bars but it would be handy for the scots for Vodka and irun bru if the russians came ???

 

[Guest77]

irun bru, lmao, that was funny

 

[Guest77]

Something for you Jocks lol, providing you have facebook that is https://www.facebook.com/nobodylikesatory

 

[jimmymac]

If they do it i hope they do it properly Passports to be shown etc no cheap rate calls through the BT tower etc Think a lot of misinformed Jocks think braveheart was a real deal and not some hollywood film. I cant stand it when they start shouting againt England they'd be foofed without us as would the welsh. Let them all go. to me a scot is as foriegn as a Spaniard. If they want to hate us give them something to hate us for let them pay for everything

It sounds to me like your the one whose doing all the hating! I certainly don't hate the English

 

[guest119]

Who is going to pay our dole if we separate?
Who is going to pay for future projects like the new Forth crossing?
Who is going to pay for all the Scottish Water upgrades and ongoing costs?
Who is going to pay my pension in 10 years time?
Oh yes, of course, the Scottish tax payer!

Boydy

 

[jimmymac]

I think you would be yes, you could not trade with europe as you wouldn't be allowed in the EU, the free parking and prescriptions you get now would have to go surely as you will have to fund yourselves and Salmond is telling porkies regarding North sea oil, it belongs to BP and Norway oil, I cannot imagine BP just handing over the rigs and kit can you? What about the ship yards and naval and airforce bases which employ thousands up there? what about the businesses which survive around the Naval and airforce bases? Should Scotland leave the union the ship yards and military bases will move south and you will lose out won't you?

One of the main reasons I will vote yes is to get rid of the Faslane base. If we house nuclear weapons then we are a target for nuclear weapons, I say get rid of them as they are inhumane and immoral

 

[Dcf]

Most Chinese takeaways sell the delights of the mars bar tempura style already no change needed there Mayfair.
selling off your sub base to the Chinese or Russians is a hypothetical question I know.
but if the Americans can put a missile base in Poland what would stop wee eck selling out ?
money talks after all.
would we be in the eu or NATO ?who knows.
we could get rid off all the meps and mps in one swoop what's not to like.
do the English really think that we stand with the begging bowl out all the time and everything here is paid for by Westminster?
like no one in Scotland pays any tax ,vat or the like?
if that was the case it would be great but it's not unfortunately
we have resources you would like to keep of that there is no doubt.
but to accuse us of being subsidy junkies and being nothing without England's backing is going to **** off the most mild mannered scot