Second National Lockdown...

[Ian1981]

Dam I need me a ginger cat then

 

[Moley]

Dam I need me a ginger cat then

My daughters boyfriend is ginger. What should I do? Do I lock him in the attic and pretend he doesn't exist or should I just send him to Switzerland and have him euthoniszed?

 

[Midwest]

I think a lot more people have become indifferent to all the restrictions now. Early on we had people visiting places they shouldn’t, the raves, people like Cummings etc. But now, it’s as if there was no lockdown.

Went into town for my appointment with my barbers, had to wait outside as others had just walked in. Barber wore a visor, which was sat on the back of his head, so he’s breathing all over me. No other customers, apart from me, wore a mask. Town was packed, it was like a normal Saturday with people stood around chatting, no masks. Went into a shop, no social distancing and nobody wearing a mask, including the shop assistants.

It will go through the roof again, and you guys won’t have any work again.

 

[mattg4321]

Even if it does go through the roof we can’t afford as a country to shut workplaces down as happened before.

Most sparks I know are stacked out with work so a slight reduction in demand won’t hurt this winter imo. Long term is more the problem when the job losses/cuts the idiotic restrictions caused start to bite.

Should always have been a case of protect the vulnerable, while everyone else goes about their business with a low level of restrictions until we have vaccine/herd immunity.

 

[GBDamo]

My daughters.....

Is just me who wondered where that was heading?

 

[Ian1981]

My daughters boyfriend is ginger. What should I do? Do I lock him in the attic and pretend he doesn't exist or should I just send him to Switzerland and have him euthoniszed?

Buy him factor 50 at Christmas

 

[Midwest]

Even if it does go through the roof we can’t afford as a country to shut workplaces down as happened before.

Most sparks I know are stacked out with work so a slight reduction in demand won’t hurt this winter imo. Long term is more the problem when the job losses/cuts the idiotic restrictions caused start to bite.

Should always have been a case of protect the vulnerable, while everyone else goes about their business with a low level of restrictions until we have vaccine/herd immunity.

I understand the impact its had financially on some, I was lucky and was able to carry on working during the lockdown. However, as @UNG said, this virus is a particularly nasty one; I don't think some people realise that. It seems its the youngsters that spread it, with no ill effect to themselves, and the older or more vulnerable die of it (I have no medical evidence of that).

 

[Wilko]

2, The original deaths were wrongly attributed to Covid.

So true it scares me. These brainiacs are STILL recording a CV19 death if Poor Person has tested positive and subsequently died in a car crash, drowned or got hit by bus etc.

I hope someone can show I’m wrong and it's been fixed...

 

[Baddegg]

So true it scares me. These brainiacs are STILL recording a CV19 death if Poor Person has tested positive and subsequently died in a car crash, drowned or got hit by bus etc.

I hope someone can show I’m wrong and it's been fixed...

I was speechless when I read that exact fact in the small print of a bbc news at ten report....that’s sensationalism at it’s absolute worst!

 

[Vortigern]

We have seen a shortage of supplies of all sorts and prices increasing. The economy (GDP) has shrunk 30%, worse than the 2008 recession. Thousands of businesses are going to the wall, hundreds of thousands of people are going to be unemployed. All as a result of lockdown. Now, add to that the end of furlough, and the end of mortgage/rent holidays, evictions and unemployment are going to go through the roof. Anyone for more lockdown?
Given the conflicting information as to CV19 that people in there droves are dying/not dying, it is fatal/non fatal etc. etc. it is very hard to see a justification based on such information to further destroy the economy. Don't get it twisted, I am not dismissing covid, at the same time I am aware there is very poor information and strategies. For instance no more than six, unless you are trashing statues then you are immune. No more than six unless you are going to the office or glueing your hands to the pavement, then you are immune. Bear in mind if a family meets another family and stops to talk they could be breaking the law, whereas if you are in a pub or restaurant you aren't. Please tell me I am not going insane. Lockdown or no lockdown we are f0099sd.
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For another thing the polymerase chain reaction test is nonsense. The person who invented it said it should never be used for testing/diagnosis. It is for research only on DNA/RNA sampling. In different countries the amount detected of the pathogen is set at a certain figure, if it is too low then there is no illness if it is set higher then epidemic. Many opinions are based on the idea that good old clinical symptoms should be the gold standard test. CV19 is apparently part of a family of virus that are pretty much the same, only SARS was much worse, no lockdown then, I wonder why?

 

[littlespark]

I don’t want to come on an argue against anything anyone has said, one way or another... but let’s have a go anyway

young people are not at fault. Not the ones I know. They have a sense of self preservation that older adults don’t. The same trait that causes the “snowflake” behaviour. Why would they risk catching it?
its the 20, 30, 40,year olds that couldn’t wait for the pubs to open, the ones that Dont listen to anyone when they’ve had a drink... not the bar staff, not the police.
Its not the schools either. True, Lifting any restrictions will increase the infection rate... but the schools should stay open, close the pubs and the open public spaces in London where the anti-vaccine brigade are massing these days.

Testing. I think they’ve engineered the test to give false positives over false negatives.
They would rather have someone wrongly told they had it, and had to isolate, than tell someone they didn’t have it, when they did... and was going out infecting others. So we can presume that the reported positive test results are exaggerated.

death reporting. They report it as a Covid death if they die within 28 days of a positive test. Day 29, it’s not Covid....??

yes, I’m getting fed up with this.... I’m fed up with the ever changing guidelines.... I’m fed up with the idiots that think Covid is a conspiracy theory, and think they have the right to put other people in harms way... selfish gits!
I’m fed up with the doom and gloom economical forecasts. We will get through this, and we’ll end up paying for it through taxes... but our taxes pay for a shed load of things no one wants anyway...

 

[Midwest]

The restrictions are an attempt to mitigate peoples exposure. If you applied them across the board, we would not be able to work. They are applied to households, because that has a limited affect, and in restaurants, so they could open again.

I agree pub hours should be limited though, because those young people I said about, don’t follow social distancing etc, when they even just get tipsy. Should be like the very old licensing hours, or even more restrictive.

The Covid death reporting is very complex, so I’ve read. But the new recording method, brings England into line with the other Home Counties.

 

[Dustydazzler]

This can’t be good... 50,000 new cases in a matter of weeks

Coronavirus: 50,000 new daily cases by mid-October at current rate

The government's two chief scientists said there would be 200 new daily deaths in the UK by mid-November if the current rate of infection continues.

uk.yahoo.com

 

[UNG]

The problem is there are large portions of the population who are carrying on like nothing is happening. Bolton is an example of the problems that one infected person can cause by dismissing the guidance and hitting the town for a pub crawl

A lot will ignore MSM in favour of getting news from less well known sources while some sources are quite legitimate and give an alternative view to the mainstream others can fall into the category of being subversive where there could be underlying reasons for them to want to keep the infection rate up and would support the theory that the virus is man made and has been selectively released

How we stop this virus is the big issue that needs to be solved, people seem to get the infection despite being isolated, others don't get infected even when in contact with an infected person yet they are now saying the antibodies having had the disease don't last that long and it is possible to be infected a second time so how reliable and effective is a vaccine going to be

There are a lot of questions that have no clear unambiguous answers and the scientists do not seem to be united on the way forward to eradicate this disease so we appear to have a long term problem

 

[Zerax]

There are a lot of questions that have no clear unambiguous answers and the scientists do not seem to be united on the way forward to eradicate this disease so we appear to have a long term problem

Having read around the subject quite alot over recent months... I'd suggest that the general consensus is that this virus will be with us for a very long time... many many years at best, but probably forever. We just need to learn to live with it.

Living with it will involve people dying earlier than they might have done before it came along... as has already been seen.

If we want to prevent anybody dying prematurely from this virus, we need to hermetically seal each individual into a plastic cocoon and provide sterilised food via an air-sealed trap.

If we really really want to do things to lessen the risk of people dying prematurely we could start by not pumping people full of antibiotics the minute they get into hospital or have a sniffle.

Just saying...