Section cut from outer sheath of armoured cable.

[LewisM]

Some of these armoured cables have a section of outer sheath cut from them the only reason I can think of as to why is to get a better bend on the cable, any thoughts?

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[Deleted member 26818]

Perhaps it was to allow the use of a volt stick to o check if live?

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Two of the cables, look as if the armour strands have been parted to allow the end of a volt stick to be pushed through.

 

[Rpa07]

Or rat pick axes digging for copper!

Oh no I've turned into @telectrix - everything is a song, video or a GIF!

 

[Phil Thompson]

It's most possible then, that at some time the sheath has been cut to facilitate cable identification, by turning power off and on, and using a volt stick to detect voltage at each cable.

 

[telectrix]

Or rat pick axes digging for copper! View attachment 37854Oh no I've turned into @telectrix - everything is a song, video or a GIF!

just for you......

did they use a sheath knife?

 

[Marvo]

It does look like somebody's stripped the outer sheath separated a space in the armour and spiked into at least one of the inner conductors. If that's the case just taping or resleeving the outer sheath isn't going to be an effective repair. The only way I know how to fix that type of damage is to isolate supply, cut and install a joint.

I hope I'm wrong because it beggers belief someone would do that to cables and just leave them. I'd make it my new mission in life to track down the ----er that did it and make his name shyte.

 

[Marvo]

I'd also be very careful before I worked in that manhole....or whatever you call them nowadays. Those two cables that run straight through from left to right look like they're very old and might be a hazard if disturbed.

 

[davesparks]

I'd also be very careful before I worked in that manhole....or whatever you call them nowadays. Those two cables that run straight through from left to right look like they're very old and might be a hazard if disturbed.

They do look very old indeed, and are almost certainly paper insulated, lead sheathed cables with a steel armour. Like many old things they were well made, are probably in perfectly good condition and would probably still stand up to more abuse than a modern SWA.

However this is only a 'probably' and yes they should at least get a thorough examination before being disturbed.

 

[Marvo]

The one nearest the centre looks like it might have deteriorated somewhat. I'd probably start with a full risk assessment in conjunction with someone with good experience of lead ,bitumen and paper insulated cables. Rather be safe than sorry.

 

[Des 56]

Regards the lead sheathed cables,if they were stripped of outer insulation
I would expect the insulation resistance between cores unlikely to be affected
The lead sheath itself and the oil impregnated paper wrapping the conductors should prevent ingress of moisture

The armourings themselves will probably corrode,mind you these cables were not always covered with an outside sheath in times past

The sheath that is still intact will probably act as a soakway for moisture,maybe stripping the whole of the sheath from the entire cable would have been less destructive

 

[uksrevivor]

If someone has the time could they explain the Spiking of the cable, is it to prove phases ? Are those cables individual incoming feeds from a transformer to a factory or industrial unit?
Your replies are much appreciated im curious to find out why its been left as armoured cables have sheath repair kits that could be used.

 

[davesparks]

If someone has the time could they explain the Spiking of the cable, is it to prove phases ? Are those cables individual incoming feeds from a transformer to a factory or industrial unit?
Your replies are much appreciated im curious to find out why its been left as armoured cables have sheath repair kits that could be used.

Spiking a cable is done to prove that it is dead (or blow the fuses) before working on it. It's done with a spiking gun which is clamped around the cable and fires a metal spike through the cable using an explosive charge.

If the cables in the picture are live then they haven't been spiked.

 

[uksrevivor]

So those cables are dead and just left in ducts if spiked, Im wondering because surely spiking a cable to work on and then re energising after work has been completed without repairing or re jointing would be seriously bad practice and possibly fatal.
Im basically asking if a cable has been spiked is it now useless ?

 

[davesparks]

So those cables are dead and just left in ducts if spiked, Im wondering because surely spiking a cable to work on and then re energising after work has been completed without repairing or re jointing would be seriously bad practice and possibly fatal.
Im basically asking if a cable has been spiked is it now useless ?

Yes spiking a cable is a destructive process, that part of the cable has to be removed. I've no experience of actually doing it but I would assume it's done in the location where the cable is going to be cut anyway to do whatever job is being done.

 

[seltechpc]

This video explains the procedures for spiking an 11kV cable. It has to be used to prove safe isolation when the two ends of a cable cannot be traced. That means all buried HV cables.