Self build - wiring a new network. Advice please.

[hightower]

they have had bms for 30 years and still use the same systems today

why do they need to upgrade?

Aww come on mate, I've made a pretty solid argument why cat5e is sufficient. That comment is nothing more than to get a rise out of me surely?

 

[shanky887614]

Aww come on mate, I've made a pretty solid argument why cat5e is sufficient. That comment is nothing more than to get a rise out of me surely?

for most people cat3 is sufficent. depends what people want and do.

i regually backup iso backups.

anyway for the price differencr i would use cat6e

18p a metre vs 25p a meter not much in it

 

[hightower]

for most people cat3 is sufficent. depends what people want and do.

i regually backup iso backups.

anyway for the price differencr i would use cat6e

18p a metre vs 25p a meter not much in it

Plus price difference for modules etc.

 

[shanky887614]

Plus price difference for modules etc.

cat6 cable will fit cat5 and i doubt there is much difference in price

 

[hightower]

cat6 cable will fit cat5 and i doubt there is much difference in price

Why pay for cat6 cable if you're gonna terminate it in cat 5e modules?

 

[hightower]

cat6 cable will fit cat5 and i doubt there is much difference in price

By that argument, 2.5mm does not cost that much more than 1.5mm, but I bet you wouldn't run it as standard in a typical domestic lighting circuit.

 

[shanky887614]

i wouldnt install cat6 a lot of cat6 has the same rating as cat5e thats why i said 6e.

 

[davesparks]

i wouldnt install cat6 a lot of cat6 has the same rating as cat5e thats why i said 6e.

There's no such thing as a cat6e standard, it was a gimmick by manufacturers to con people into thinking that their cat6 is better than other cat6.
There is a cat6a standard in existence though, it has a slightly better crosstalk resistance at very high frequencies. But just to complicate things there is a difference between IEC cat6a and TIA cat6a.
You could of course go up to cat7 but then the connectors aren't compatible.

 

[shanky887614]

There's no such thing as a cat6e standard, it was a gimmick by manufacturers to con people into thinking that their cat6 is better than other cat6.
There is a cat6a standard in existence though, it has a slightly better crosstalk resistance at very high frequencies. But just to complicate things there is a difference between IEC cat6a and TIA cat6a.
You could of course go up to cat7 but then the connectors aren't compatible.

true cat6 comes in 1gbs and 10gbs cat6e is easier to say though ^^

none of these data cables will hit there rated speed though

 

[janner43]

Wanted to post back just to say thanks for all the advice and let you know what the outcome is...

I have bought 305m of Excel 100-060 cable (£45 delivered)
Category 5e Unscreened (U/UTP) Cable - LSOH | Excel Networking

And also a 24 port patch panel (£10.35 delivered)
RJ45 Cat5e 24 Port Ethernet Network Patch Panel 1U 19" Wall Mounted Bracket Rack | eBay

I plan to run a lot more cable runs than I will initially need and then terminate them in the patch panel to future proof the install.

As far as needing the higher spec of cat6 goes, my final thinking was this. Given that even streaming 4K from Netflix or Amazon only requires 20mbs, a decent cat5e solid copper cable, capable of up to 1gigabit in speed is going to give me all the future proofing I need. An old work colleague (IT Manager) has advised me on the best way to terminate the runs, hence the simple patch panel.

Anyway, cheers all for the advice and comments. Great forum and as I am currently undertaking a self build project that is just about to get into the ground, you may find me asking more questions over the next few weeks.

All the best