Self policing EICR cowboys

[richardg]

I have picked up 2 contracts in the last week to fix remedial work reported on a EICR.

After an initial discussion with the landlords I requested a copy of the EICR to see what had been reported.

In both cases the reports looked wrong, with tests missing and generally no added detail.
After reading the reports I spoke to the tenants and both of them stated the ‘electrician’ was in the property for around 30mins. My standard testing time is 4-8 hours depending on the condition.

After visiting the properties I was literally ‘shocked’ at the sheer incompetence shown. Both properties had sockets with reversed polarity - meaning no R1+R2 reading were possible(he hadn’t removed any sockets covers),I found there was no earthing to lighting circuits - guess what - there was a R1+R2 readings.

At what point do we report these companies - who do we report them to? are they even using licensed electricians?

I’m speaking to the letting agents tomorrow and feel so ********* I’m going to call this ‘family business’ and professional give them what’s for.

Any advice in next steps?

 

[richardg]

Where is that answer from out of interest? I'd read it as saying that R1+R2 may not be needed if Zs has been taken for each circuit - as that checks polarity and is possible even when circuits cannot be isolated. It is also the defining limit on whether the OPCD is satisfactory.

It's correct that you can calculate Zs, but not the reverse.

Mind you, even the cheapest plug in socket tester should have picked up reverse polarity (assuming L-N switch).

The tenant said he spent virtually no time looking around, no excuse not to plug your mft into sockets and check, there were only 12 sockets in the flat.
Pure cowboy behaviour!

 

[mattg4321]

Write to your MP. Or whatever commons select committee is responsible for electrical work.

Maybe we could all sign it.

A letter with hundreds of electrical companies signatures on to the correct commons select committee might raise some eyebrows

 

[UNG]

Write to your MP. Or whatever commons select committee is responsible for electrical work.

Maybe we could all sign it.

A letter with hundreds of electrical companies signatures on to the correct commons select committee might raise some eyebrows

It might be a better idea to go direct to the minister at the MHCLG, the NICEIC under the guidance of Clancy went direct to the minister last time to circumvent the select committee report when it was going against the NICEIC

I do wonder how the NICEIC would react if they got a letter regarding the standard of EICR's that some their members are producing and making it clear that it was also copied to UKAS

 

[i=p/u]

If you ain't happy with your scheme certified installer/ electricians work/report, you can report it. All your going to create is more fees to be a spark. 450 +vat for regs course.

 

[Zerax]

I do wonder how the NICEIC would react if they got a letter regarding the standard of EICR's that some their members are producing and making it clear that it was also copied to UKAS

I could write the letter of reply now... "We take the standard of work of our members very seriously... blah blah blah", "All our members are vetted before admittance and annually... blah blah blah", "We encourage all our members to undertake CPD to... blah blah blah", "We will of course look into any reported shortcomings... blah blah blah"

Imagine a large carpet... with a big bulge in it... that's where all this would end up...

...not that I'm cynical at all.

 

[UNG]

I could write the letter of reply now... "We take the standard of work of our members very seriously... blah blah blah", "All our members are vetted before admittance and annually... blah blah blah", "We encourage all our members to undertake CPD to... blah blah blah", "We will of course look into any reported shortcomings... blah blah blah"

Imagine a large carpet... with a big bulge in it... that's where all this would end up...

...not that I'm cynical at all.

And who would that reply be from NICEIC, UKAS or MHCLG

 

[UNG]

If you ain't happy with your scheme certified installer/ electricians work/report, you can report it. All your going to create is more fees to be a spark. 450 +vat for regs course.

Please explain??

 

[i=p/u]

There already is a point of contact, thats why customers already use scheme providers. The amount electrical work goes on in this world and we only hear the ---- on here... so anyone who has got problems should be approaching the schemes... they have to be told...

 

[i=p/u]

Someone hit it on head the other day, I'm sure if niceic got complaints after complaints about a contractor they will do something about it. if something happened and it's been logged several times about a contractor , well the proofs there, schemes havent being doing their job.

 

[nicebutdim]

Watched this video last night, from Thomas Nagy. Sorting the aftermath of a drive by EICR and makes a few interesting observations near the end.

Three new boards fitted late 2020 and each was thrown in, using whatever components were to hand.

 

[UNG]

Someone hit it on head the other day, I'm sure if niceic got complaints after complaints about a contractor they will do something about it. if something happened and it's been logged several times about a contractor , well the proofs there, schemes havent being doing their job.

The problem is the NICEIC don't have a good track record when it comes to dealing with complaints

 

[Soi disant]

The definition of "good track record" depends on which side of the complaints you sit on....

 

[i=p/u]

The problem is the NICEIC don't have a good track record when it comes to dealing with complaints

Would you give them c3

They ask for you to have complaints folder too, cheek of them