Separate supplies?

[sarah2009]

Dear all,

Got a simple question. I have just purchased a house and it was split into 2 flats about 30 years ago by the previous owner. The property has two electricity meters with two electricity bills. May I ask if anyone know whether it means the house already has two separate supplies or not please? Please see photos below.




Many thanks,
Sarah :winkiss:

 

[kingeri]

Looks like both meters come off one supply to me!

 

[Octopus]

Best call the supplier and ask them.....

 

[sarah2009]

Best call the supplier and ask them.....

Would they have this info on their system right away or do they need to come and inspect first?

Also whats the benefit to add a separate supply in?

Many thanks,
Sarah

 

[Engineer54]

Agree, but the only way to be sure, is to get an electrician to test the voltage between the two supplies!!

 

[Engineer54]

Would they have this info on their system right away or do they need to come and inspect first?

Also whats the benefit to add a separate supply in?

Many thanks,
Sarah

For a typically sized single residence, ......None!! At the moment you will be paying two lot's of standing charges, one for each meter!!

 

[sarah2009]

The two flats have quite a lot of rooms together and we would like to put about 10 mini fridges inside, one in each of the bedrooms.

Do you think it will run with just one supply? Or we will need an additional one please?

Many thanks,
Sarah

 

[Octopus]

Are you proposing a HMO? If so there are regs to apply.

 

[sarah2009]

Are you proposing a HMO? If so there are regs to apply.

Hi there,

We havent decided yet and we are trying to work out if its worth doing at all. We understand there are rules to follow in hmo though we really want to know if it means we need an additional supply first and whether its worth adding at all. Any idea please?

Many thanks
Sarah

 

[Engineer54]

Better to tell us what you are proposing for this property, rather than bit feeding us information as you go....

 

[sarah2009]

Better to tell us what you are proposing for this property, rather than bit feeding us information as you go....

Sorry. There are two flats in the house, each flat with 5 bedsits, each has its own mini fridge inside the bedroom so 10 fridge in total. Then there is a communal kitchen in each flat but with no fridge. Each kitchen has its own washing machine.

Heating and hot water will be by system boilers.

Thanks.

 

[telectrix]

1 supply should be adequate. just a matter of getting supplier to remove 1 meter .

 

[sarah2009]

1 supply should be adequate. just a matter of getting supplier to remove 1 meter .

Thanks. We do want to keep them as two flats in the house. Can we keep the two meters or what harm would it do please?

 

[Engineer54]

So really you need to be doing a feasibility study, and that can't realistically be done over a forum. Your best bet is to employ the services of a Qualified Engineer or at the very least, a qualified electrician of good standing to assess the properties electrical requirements and overall maximum demand on the incoming electrical supply....

 

[sarah2009]

So whats the average max limit of power for a single phase supply please? In terms of kW? Thanks.

 

[telectrix]

about 20kW - 23kW. as eng54 said. get an eletrician to asses the requirements. if you post your location, 1 of us may be close to you.

 

[sarah2009]

about 20kW - 23kW. as eng54 said. get an eletrician to asses the requirements. if you post your location, 1 of us may be close to you.

Thanks. Oh yes, we do have someone coming to visit though he is on holiday until after the New Year now... We are trying to understand a bit more ourselves first

So I take that the limit for the house is 20kW at any one point in time? We have checked the annual energy consumption of each fridge will be 208 kWh, which means it will be about 0.02 kW per hour.

 

[telectrix]

what you need to allow for is that everything will not be drawing power at the same time. unless you have some heavy stuff, like showers and cooking equipment,then 20kW is ample .

 

[sarah2009]

what you need to allow for is that everything will not be drawing power at the same time. unless you have some heavy stuff, like showers and cooking equipment,then 20kW is ample .

There will be quite a few showers in the house, but hot water is all done by gas system boiler (megaflow), will that use much electrical power please?

Which will draw more power please? An electric hob or microwave?

Many thanks.

 

[telectrix]

gas water heating does not use much electric power. it's the heating that consumes the most power either electric or gas.

power showers are the way forward. the ones that have hot and cold feed.. so you're not using 9kW to heat water.

electric hob will use a lot more power than a microwave. look at the rating plate to see the kW.

 

[sarah2009]

gas water heating does not use much electric power. it's the heating that consumes the most power either electric or gas.

power showers are the way forward. the ones that have hot and cold feed.. so you're not using 9kW to heat water.

electric hob will use a lot more power than a microwave. look at the rating plate to see the kW.

Thanks a lot. When u say 9kw to heat water, is that gas or electric pls? Thanks.

 

[telectrix]

what i meant was the difference in the type of shower. an instantaneous shower ( cold feed only) is about 9kW electric. a power shower has hot and cold feed: the only electric power used is the pump which is only as few watts.

 

[GMES]

Tel I hope you get the job with how much information you have given to the op, you really are a Gent.:wink5::wink5:

 

[Octopus]

Sarah, what you need to do for your "holidaying" spark, or any other, is to come up with an "outline" requirement for each self contained flat.....then the people you consult first hand would have something to go on. Hope this helps

 

[telectrix]

Tel I hope you get the job with how much information you have given to the op, you really are a Gent.:wink5::wink5:

just passing away the time till beer o'clock. :17: