shaver socket outlets

[i=p/u]

we just nearly finished kitchen rewire for guy and he asking all sorts of other we jobs, done.

my question is this we only rewired kitchen and fitted new board with 30mA rcds. he is now asking about shaver sockets in two bathrooms... would these need to be rcd protected or could i just come off the lights..??
as these are selv

 

[Amp David]

Cable may depending on installation. Doesn't the new CU have lighting on RCD or RCBO.

 

[i=p/u]

was only kitchen lighting we done but yes thers plenty of spare was n both sides of dual board.... so would you run two new cables from 1 mcb to two bathrooms.. hes on about a complete board change soon, but just not today...

 

[i=p/u]

aye of course need rcd protecting, sorry, as cable maybe surface most of the way but as you drop it down cavity it probably wont be

 

[Octopus]

aye of course need rcd protecting, sorry, as cable maybe surface most of the way but as you drop it down cavity it probably wont be

drop it down which cavity!!

 

[i=p/u]

well ok back of stud... i believe its a timber frame house with a block wall on th facade

 

[i=p/u]

just going through my options..

 

[MarkieSparkie]

we just nearly finished kitchen rewire for guy and he asking all sorts of other we jobs, done.

my question is this we only rewired kitchen and fitted new board with 30mA rcds. he is now asking about shaver sockets in two bathrooms... would these need to be rcd protected or could i just come off the lights..??
as these are selv

Standard shaver sockets are not SELV (the clue is Separated ELV), they are actually electrical separated LV, similar, but the regulations governing their uses are different due to the differing voltage bands in which each operates.
When installing the shaver sockets, additional protection via an RCD will be required for ALL circuits in a location containing a bath or shower 701.411.3.3

 

[SPARTYKUS]

Standard shaver sockets are not SELV (the clue is Separated ELV), they are actually electrical separated LV, similar, but the regulations governing their uses are different due to the differing voltage bands in which each operates.
When installing the shaver sockets, additional protection via an RCD will be required for ALL circuits in a location containing a bath or shower 701.411.3.3

Gets a few that one. Thats why it still says 230V on the outlet

You could fit an RCD spur in the loft (assuming upstairs bathroom) for the sake of getting it done and leaving?

 

[Deleted member 26818]

The requirements of the Regulations, are (pre-ammendment) that: "Additional protection shall be provided for all circuits of the location, by use of one or more RCDs having the charcteristics specified in Regulation 415.1.1."
The ammendment has changed the wording to "all low voltage circuits".
To my mind the use of an RCD spur which would only protect part of a circuit, would not be acceptable.

 

[morph]

SELV uhm ....

 

[i=p/u]

well he only has 4 recessed spots in each bathroom, they all power showers now with pump being installed in garage attic... so so maybe looks like il have to rewire these lights aswell or do as someone says and use rcd fcu for lights and shaver socket.

but what im thinking is just use 6A mcb on rcd side and run two bathroom circuits off this. then pull all other cables back. and then thats his bathrooms upto date and kitchen. hes keen to get dome to standards not like when it was wired.. and the quick additions over the years..

 

[Richard Burns]

If you have space to put a 6A MCB on the RCD side then just transfer the bathroom lighting circuit over to this and then take a feed from the lights down to the new shaver sockets.

 

[i=p/u]

yeah im nearly certain all lights are one circuit.. so would be running new feed from cu to switch...

so would you agree by protecting installing shaver socket ,id have to rcd the lights???

 

[i=p/u]

reg 701.411.3.3