Should we really be working in peoples homes in Tier 3

[nicebutdim]

Are really visual demonstration how brilliantly effective masks are at stopping respiratory droplets being coughed / sneezed into the air

Plenty of information dealing with their effectivess at stopping droplets, but none want to address what happens when those droplets dry out and they will dry out quickly.

Pseudo-science isn't science.

 

[Zerax]

that would then make you a key worker so you can carry on with impunity.

Exactly ! I find it amusing that probably 95% of the working population are "key workers" !

 

[Zerax]

Basic hygeine measures and some distance are likely to be much more effective and I find that many people seem to think those simple measures are no longer necessary when they don a mask.

Totally agree !! I call them 'immunity masks' as the general public seem to think that when you have one on... you are instantly immune. This probably explains the large increase in the infection rate since the wearing of masks became the norm.

 

[Zerax]

You're in the wrong job, as the government has been advised by their specialists that it is airborne, and masks do indeed help. You must know better?

I don't have that much faith in so called 'specialists' or 'experts'.

Unrelated to covid and masks... but I recently read a story about wood burning stoves and how unhealthy they are. Some scientists had installed air quality measuring devices in a room that contained a wood burning stove... and noticed that the air quality decreased when the stove was in use. Interesting thought...

I pondered this for a while...

Surely, when a stove is lit.. and fired correctly with the door shut... the stove draws air into the combustion process, which then goes up the flue. In fact so much air is needed that the building regs are involved as you need to ensure that it can be taken from somewhere. So this apparent decrease in air quality is probably because far more air is being drawn in from outside ! not due the stove producing bad things that enter the room. By the very nature of how a stove works, there's an airflow into the stove, then up the flue.

I've clearly missed something with all this... as I'm not a scientist, specialist or expert in stoves...

If anyone could correct my logic on this... I would be grateful...

 

[Wilko]

Surely, when a stove is lit.. and fired correctly with the door shut... the stove draws air into the combustion process, which then goes up the flue

Correct !

It does assume the fire box correctly sealed and flued. I’m thinking the fire box sealing may not be perfect as the wood burners door is opened an closed a lot more times than say a gas boiler combustion chamber. The combustion chamber is sealed at the factory and Mr Gas-Safe restores that seal after servicing. The flue has both an exhaust and an inlet for fresh air so the air in the room is not depleted of oxygen over time.

 

[GBDamo]

You're in the wrong job, as the government has been advised by their specialists that it is airborne, and masks do indeed help. You must know better?

Ha, some of my installations alone prove that.

The virus is not airborne, it can be carried in droplets coughed up by a plague carrier but they should be in self isolation, if they are in public their mask will help prevent spread but again, they should not be in public.

The viral particles themselves will pass straight through 99.9% of the masks on open sale.

If the virus was airborne masks would offer less than 1% protection and we'd be up that creek sans paddle.

Hard surface and hand cleaning are very effective though.

Forgive me for being sceptical of government specialists, after all you hire a rent a gob to profess anything these days.

 

[Mike Johnson]

I think if sensible precautions are taken... we're fine. It's actually a rare virus to catch... in my area it's about 0.8% officially... so the risks are very low. Even if you do catch it, only a small minority have severe symptoms.

I wanted to reply to the above, but words fail me.

 

[telectrix]

it could be argued that beer and smokes are the best defence againsy covid 19, as i've not caught it. ????

 

[GBDamo]

I wanted to reply to the above, but words fail me.

Why? Its a reasonably summation of reality.

If your fit and healthy then the risks to yourself are negligible.

If your customer is in a high risk group then the onus is on them to highlight this and protect themselves and not invite risk into their home.

As always, there are precautions that can be taken to further reduce risk, which Zerax points out.

 

[Zerax]

it could be argued that beer and smokes are the best defence againsy covid 19, as i've not caught it. ????

Or it could be that being a miserable, grumpy old bast@ard works too ? nobody comes near us ??

 

[littlespark]

Turn on the tv, guys. Christmas relaxation has been cancelled for some areas down south.

 

[DPG]

I know a few people who have had Covid. Admittedly most didn't show bad symptoms, but 4 of them did, and they were all very fit healthy people. Two of them still have issues with their respiratory system months later.

Don't be too over confident that it won't affect you, that's all I'm saying.

 

[telectrix]

Turn on the tv, guys. Christmas relaxation has been cancelled for some areas down south.

do they have christmas down south?thought they were akll satanists , working in city of london, working out ways to steal pensions,

 

[Baddegg]

Well....I was due to go away for Christmas next Tuesday with the wife n kids for a week in a log cabin over Christmas....tier 3 cancelled that ?.....then tier 4 came along which saved me from my mother in laws at Christmas so every cloud and all that ?

 

[Zerax]

do they have christmas down south?thought they were akll satanists , working in city of london, working out ways to steal pensions,

...and working to generate over £75 Billion in taxes to pay for the rest of the country !