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IanRowlings

Hi
A friend has built a shower room and has asked if would do the electrics for him. I
have had some experience over the years but I'm not an electrician and would appreciate
some advice on a couple of things.

There's a 9W extractor fan and two 50W fire protected halogen downlighters to fit. The
ring main is in a convenient location so I had intended to take a 2.5mm cable from this
junction to a 13A (3A induction) fused, 30mA, double pole RCD and connect this to a
double pole fan isolator switch (both outside the room). I would then take a 1.5mm
cable from the switch to the fan and then onto the 2 light in series. Does this appear
to be OK, or should I take 2 cables from the switch to the fan and lights seperately?

He also wants to fit a 2-gang 115/230V shaver socket with integral transformer. There
are 3 ways to fit this that I would consider:
1. I could take the feed from the same ring main junction direct to the shaver unit so
that it permanently live. Although, even though the ring is RCD protected, I'm not sure
if this would be adequate protection.
2. As with the setup for the fan and lights, I could take an additinal feed from the
fan isolator switch to the shaver socket so that it switched with the fan and lights. I
don't think the power consumtion of all 3 items would be too great for the RCD or
switch. However, I have read that a fuse rating much less than 13A should be used with
these shaver sockets, so my concern here is that the 13A RCD would not provide suitable
protection.
3. I could take an additinal feed from the same ring junction to a new DP RCD and
switch and feed the shaver socket from these. If this option is preferable what rating
of RCD should be used?

Finally, should I use 1.5 or 2.5mm cable to feed the shaver untit?
Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks.
 
ALL electrical work in dwellings is covered by Part P.

Only work within the zones of special locations is notifiable.
Plus of course new circuits.

Which disagrees with what I said how, exactly?
 
Rockingit - with all due respect it is irresponsible to encourage a DIYer to have a go at installing new electrics in a shower room. He stated that someone has asked him to do the electrics, and he's come straight on here asking how to do it. This suggests that he should not be doing it. OK, he seems to have more of an idea than some who come on here asking questions, but I am certainly not ashamed of not indulging him on this one.

I think if you read his post carefully you'll realise that he didn't come on here asking how to do it. He asked some very pertinent questions based clearly from an underlying knowledge and experience and was simply seeking some clarification. And you'll also see that my advice was to get an approved electrician in. There is nothing wrong, in principle, with DIY Dave so long as Dave knows his own limitations and when to seek advice - and that's exactly what the OP did here.
 
I think if you read his post carefully you'll realise that he didn't come on here asking how to do it. He asked some very pertinent questions based clearly from an underlying knowledge and experience and was simply seeking some clarification. And you'll also see that my advice was to get an approved electrician in. There is nothing wrong, in principle, with DIY Dave so long as Dave knows his own limitations and when to seek advice - and that's exactly what the OP did here.

I have to say that I completely disagree with that. I've lost count of the number of times that I have attended a job, only to find that while DIY Dave has done a fantastic job installing/connecting whatever he has just bought from his local DIY superstore, due to not having any test gear he has completely missed the fact that he's connected to a dangerous circuit.
 
Thanks to those offering encouragement. And to those who have not, I would say that I have done some considerable electrical work in both my kitchen and bathroom all of which has been certified correctly. If I am completely wrong about what I have suggested perhaps those without a broomstick up their backsides might like to reply!
 
Welcome back Ian. You did ask us for our opinion, so there is no need to slag off the people (that included me) which were showing concern that you might not know fully what you are getting yourself into.
You say that you 'have done some considerable electrical work in both my kitchen and bathroom all of which has been certified correctly'. Who certified the work? Have you asked this person if your idea in your original post is OK?
 
Care to post these certs?

Thanks to those offering encouragement. And to those who have not, I would say that I have done some considerable electrical work in both my kitchen and bathroom all of which has been certified correctly. If I am completely wrong about what I have suggested perhaps those without a broomstick up their backsides might like to reply!
 
Thanks to those offering encouragement. And to those who have not, I would say that I have done some considerable electrical work in both my kitchen and bathroom all of which has been certified correctly. If I am completely wrong about what I have suggested perhaps those without a broomstick up their backsides might like to reply!
off you go sonny
 

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