Ok here's the scenario. Woman I know has a garage joined on to her house, she's went & put up a partition so that the garage is split in two as one room is now going to be a room used for a dog grooming business. In the room for the dog grooming she has a shower installed on one wall........the same wall as the garage fuse board about 1.5m away! I've tried explaining to her that the mains board will need repositioned into the garage room adjacent to the room where the shower is, she's having none of it though! The fuse board was fitted to the bare block wall but has now been strapped out & sheeted, so it's basically flush with the plasterboard. I've tried explaining to her why it can't stay there. The shower is just on the wall, no shower screen etc & how dangerous it could be washing struggling dogs with the shower head & fuse board basically right beside the shower!! Her latest idea is that she will sheet over the fuse board with ply wood, I've explained how this won't be adequately protected from splashes etc... Can someone please point me in the right direction for where I can show her in the regs book that it can't stay there.
-
Please use style selector to select BLUE AND WHITE. If you are not already on it. This notice will go once you're on the correct style.
Maybe it can but not by me, why would I want to take responsibility for a splash proof cover?!?!
I'm giving a friend a hand.
Normally I'm ok for finding info, in this case I wasn't sure & wanted a helping hand, is that so big a problem. You seem a bit of a... ah never mind. Do you go around replying to everyone who looks for a bit of help the way you have here with me? Looking down on everyone who doesn't know as much as you? I'm pretty sure at one point you weren't as clued up as you are now & asked for help from people, we've not all been in the industry as long as others. Like I've already said, I know it can't be located where it is under the situation she wants it to be, was looking for a bit of advice on the regulation so that I could show her.
N
NickD
It would also need to be IP2X but as a consumer unit must meet this anyway? But wouldn't the supply to the accessory (which in this case happens to be a consumer unit) also need to be protected by a 30mA RCD in order to comply with the current regs...? So you'd need RCD protection upstream of the CU...? Granted the consumer unit is already there and the location is being converted, not sure what happens with existing installation if location is converted to special. I recall that just because it has a shower head in it it doesn't *necessarily* make it a location containing bath/shower, can't remember the precise details of what rules it in/out and my BS7671 is out in the van.
M
MDJ
The whole thing stinks unfortunately, giving a friend a hand and can't be bothered to look at a regs and don't even know about section 7, neither of you owning any reference books jeez, I would recommend you have a good read of section 7 as pointed out by Richard and you will then have a starting point regards your decision to energise the shower or to suggest an alternative design to the customer.
V
VintageGt
This thread is hilarious, sitting at my desk highly amused, though I do notice 2 things...1. I am pretty shocked a practicing spark doesn't know the regs regarding shower zones and doesn't own a valid on site guide....surely there is a message in there somewhere...?? (shocked....yes I know, pun very much intended)2. I realise why it's better to try and exhaust all avenues of reference and research before asking advice on here. I bet he wishes he never asked. That said, SSE, you kind of asked for it with this enquiry.Buy an on site guide my friend, take it home and spenfd a few hours familiarising yourself with it. Yes, boring I know but it may just keep you out of prison one day.'If there is enough slack form it into a noose and give her a bucket to stand on. I'm worried about the poor old pooches myself...' LOL...love that comment!
M
MDJ
Could always buy a large IPX 65 enclosure, jigsaw the part of the back out and fix it over all the mains. Then silicone around the edges to make it water tight, job done, 100 notes for the enclosure and compliant as the equipment will have a minimum ipx 4 rating as it is 1.5mtrs away.
timo1
-
Why is it lately that just about everyone asking for help seems to get advised to either call an electrician, or told they don't know what they are doing. This place has been fantastic in the past and helped me no end, but it just seems to be very unfriendly of late. If you cant see what i mean look at the last few threads that you have contributed on and its difficult to disagree. Not having a pop at anyone in particular, but I read a thread yesterday that not only took apart a friendly member, but descended into schoolyard insults. I find it hard to imagine anyone gets by on site talking to each other like this...
uksparks
-
The problem is that you have people who are supposedly 'qualified' and doing electrical work who quite frankly don't know anything about the regs and would struggle to Rewire a plug.
1. If you are a DIYer then say so and admit it.
2. If you have no experience and have no idea what you are doing then admit it.
3. If you claim to be 'qualified' and a practicing electrician and ask questions that a trainee could answer, put your tools down and find another career.
4. If you are a qualified electrician who asks a question at least keep it on a level where people won't laugh at you.
Things like this you should know like the back of your hand, come on people get a grip.
1. If you are a DIYer then say so and admit it.
2. If you have no experience and have no idea what you are doing then admit it.
3. If you claim to be 'qualified' and a practicing electrician and ask questions that a trainee could answer, put your tools down and find another career.
4. If you are a qualified electrician who asks a question at least keep it on a level where people won't laugh at you.
Things like this you should know like the back of your hand, come on people get a grip.
N
NickD
5. None of this is any excuse for being obnoxious to people in a way you wouldn't dream of being face to face. I don't understand what drives people to be foul to other people just because they think they can get away with it because it's online. It just doesn't achieve anything. I mean take the mickey a bit by all means but nastiness is not called for.
P
Plonker 3
The OP admitted he couldn't be bothered to reference to BS7671, now tell me that is the right attitude to have in this job. If he had said he had looked and couldn't find anything to back his case either way then say so. Being plain lazy just makes me think what a buffoon.
Hi everyone,
If...
OFFICIAL SPONSORS
These Official Forum Sponsors May Provide Discounts to Regular Forum Members - If you would like to sponsor us then CLICK HERE and post a thread with who you are, and we'll send you some stats etc
YOUR Unread Posts
-
-
RCD mainswitch? What's the best way forward?- Latest: Jock from the north
-