Socket wired of a outdoor light!

[Dizzy_Maskell]

Guys please back me up on this, went to a mates house and he has "proudly" shown me his DIY electrical handy work,

Few years back I ran a swa cable to the bottom of his garden tapped off the outside light as he wanted a light at the far end of the garden to for his shed etc.

He has adapted it now and added sockets to the shed for bits a pieces. But he has to turn the outside light on for them to be energised.

As he only uses the sockets whilst he is down there and so needs the light on anyway "there is no problem" can someone back me up so I can show him please as my qualifications don't appear to count.

Main switch 61008 on Con Unit and outside light circuit fed from down stairs lights 60898 B6.

Cheers

 

[Lou7]

The cable is protected by the 6 amp mcb. If someone ups the mcb it's up to them, that could happen anywhere. Not saying its a good job, but it's not dangerous.

 

[Pete999]

Of course it's dangerous, what happens if Mr DIY is out in the shed / Garage working with a drill or something, and Mrs DIY switches the light that the socket is tagged on to off, Mr DIY thinks Oh flip my drills busted starts haveing a butchers and Mrs DIY switches the lights back on?:13:

 

[Lou7]

If Mrs DIY had balls she'd be your uncle

 

[Pete999]

Now Now :33::devil2:

 

[Adam W]

I suppose on the one hand if the customer wants to start adding in sockets where they haven't been designed for, then uprating the breaker because it keeps tripping, then that's their lookout and you'll just come along and rewire the circuit when it melts.
On the other hand if the feed to the shed had been run from the downstairs power final or better yet on it's own cct then fused down for the light in the shed, maybe even a socket added at the time, then the customer wouldn't feel the need to start messing about with it.

 

[Dizzy_Maskell]

I suppose on the one hand if the customer wants to start adding in sockets where they haven't been designed for, then uprating the breaker because it keeps tripping, then that's their lookout and you'll just come along and rewire the circuit when it melts.
On the other hand if the feed to the shed had been run from the downstairs power final or better yet on it's own cct then fused down for the light in the shed, maybe even a socket added at the time, then the customer wouldn't feel the need to start messing about with it.

Did the quick job I was asked, if some one told you they wanted an extra outside light would you install a brand new circuit I think not,
Not having a go but that is like saying when a guy asked to change the oil in a car and someone turning it into a bently

 

[trev]

The thing is Adam, all we can do is advise and make sugestions. If the customer doesn't want to go to the expense then all we can do is what we're asked to.

 

[Adam W]

Did the quick job I was asked, if some one told you they wanted an extra outside light would you install a brand new circuit I think not,
Not having a go but that is like saying when a guy asked to change the oil in a car and someone turning it into a bently

I wasn't having a go either, obviously you've seen the job and I haven't, what I was suggesting was in an ideal situation you'd minimise the risk of it being modified. Same with putting in 5A sockets for TV boosters and specific items of equipment.
As trev says you could suggest it, but if the customer is adamant they just want a light in the shed and nothing else, you can either do the job as they want or they'll get someone else to do it. Or have a go them self.

 

[se7aq]

Show him Table H2.1 of your on-site guide, A2 Radial. Explain that his circuit is a type of radial and that it needs to be a 2.5 cable for him to have sockets.

Or, is it a fused connection, see H2.3..."Where a fused spur serves socket-outlets.....

 

[trev]

Show him Table H2.1 of your on-site guide, A2 Radial. Explain that his circuit is a type of radial and that it needs to be a 2.5 cable for him to have sockets.

Or, is it a fused connection, see H2.3..."Where a fused spur serves socket-outlets.....

Did you bother to read the background to all this? The guy connected socket outlets to a lighting circuit

 

[dazza1981]

Show him Table H2.1 of your on-site guide, A2 Radial. Explain that his circuit is a type of radial and that it needs to be a 2.5 cable for him to have sockets.

Or, is it a fused connection, see H2.3..."Where a fused spur serves socket-outlets.....

What thread you on mate.... im confused

 

[Pete999]

Show him Table H2.1 of your on-site guide, A2 Radial. Explain that his circuit is a type of radial and that it needs to be a 2.5 cable for him to have sockets.

Or, is it a fused connection, see H2.3..."Where a fused spur serves socket-outlets.....

No mate, the dozy customer has stuffed some 13amp sockets on the end of a bit of 1.5mm which is feeding an outside light switched from the house, I really don't see what all the fuss is about.

The OP did the original job which was to install an outside light, and his mate(the customer has done the dirty deed with the socket abortion)

The OP has asked for advice on what he should tell his mate, and has received a lot of good advice. There is nothing more he can do, perhaps if he showed him all these threads that may make him see sense, although I doubt it/

 

[Lou7]

I'm sure I've seen a reg that states that 13amp sockets can be used for connecting lights.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

I'm sure I've seen a reg that states that 13amp sockets can be used for connecting lights.

Yep, 916.11.216
"A 13a socket can be used for connecting a light".

Pretty conclusive I'd say

 

[davesparks]

What has that got to do with it though? This socket has not been installed for the purpose of connecting a light.