Socket without an earth?

[HappyHippyDad]

Hello,

I am installing some new sockets on to a radial for a friend and I noticed that one of the existing sockets just had 2 core going to it, no earth.

Just wondering why someone would have put 2 core cable in rather than twin and earth?

Thanks..

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Hello,

I am installing some new sockets on to a radial for a friend and I noticed that one of the existing sockets just had 2 core going to it, no earth.

Just wondering why someone would have put 2 core cable in rather than twin and earth?


Thanks..

Cos they are a muppet.

 

[9regnac]

DIY job maybe. Or is it singles and conduit is earth. check what leaves the board. Is its two core leaving board better rewiring the radial

 

[dim_bulb]

Is it really old vir cable? I.e the rubbery sheath.
if metal clad do a zs on it

 

[MDJ]

It may be the black rubber cable just slightly newer than VIR, or maybe not, either way I recommend you talk the householder into a rewire at least of that leg or more if the rest of the circuit is the same, Forget about testing it if there is no earth, I would refuse to work on it if it is only 2 core and comprises of socket outlets feeding portable equipment, very very dangerous IMO.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Is it really old vir cable? I.e the rubbery sheath.
if metal clad do a zs on it

eh?...its failed visual...lol...

 

[ayjay]

Hello,

I am installing some new sockets on to a radial for a friend and I noticed that one of the existing sockets just had 2 core going to it, no earth.

Just wondering why someone would have put 2 core cable in rather than twin and earth?

Thanks..

as an electrician, what do you think you should do?

 

[dim_bulb]

Perhaps a bit of investigation is needed there
And to see if any other ones are like this

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not if it's a metal clad socket in garage is it?

 

[dim_bulb]

Hang on I reread first post ignore metal clad nonsense just redo the socket

 

[HappyHippyDad]

DIY job maybe. Or is it singles and conduit is earth. check what leaves the board. Is its two core leaving board better rewiring the radial

I've checked all other sockets and all show continuity of cpc. It is just this one that has 2core. It is PVC sheath (old colours). Definitely T&E entering the CU

as an electrician, what do you think you should do?

A fair enough question. I feel a complete rewire is just a bit over the top seeing as though all other sockets are ok. This one socket has one 2 core cable entering it so it is either a spur or end of radial, so I will remove it and make safe.

 

[9regnac]

Open all sockets to see if it is a spur an then disconnect it. Whilst you have them all open you will find end of radial.

 

[Rockingit]

It might be an idea to trim back some sheathing (assuming there is some) to see if in fact it's just the CPC's been clipped back so far it's invisible. But, probability suggests prize muppetry at work here.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

Hadn't thought of that as it looks very clearly to be just 2 conductors coming out, but worth checking, thanks.

 

[Rkm45]

Just run a new cable with an earth simple -)

 

[ayjay]

what is an earthsimple?