Sockets in sink cupboards and standard cupboards.

[TJC1]

Need some advice.
We do a lot of electrical work for an upscale kitchen company. Avg price of £25000+
And most of the time the customers want a '' Stream Line '' look. So want as many as the socket hidden away as possible '' ie pop up sockets, roll over socket or socket in cupboards or ontop.

What do people think of placing sockets in cupboards, which ovs will be filled in the norm and wont be accessible without emptying cupboards, inside sink cupboards. And above cooker housing, which wont be accessible without a step ladder of some kind?

I cant see any other options? Without having sockets, fuse spurs and cooker panels above the work top.

Many thanks.

 

[Midwest]

Personally, never seen any problem with fitting sockets in cupboards as long as there are fixed properly and are accessible. Have you some examples, that we can debate?

 

[Leesparkykent]

I think it's written in the electricians guide to the building regs that wiring accessories should be mounted on the building fabric.
Tbh I have put sockets High level so they don't get bashed in adjacent cupboards to appliances before now.

 

[R G]

With integrated appliances I can't see any choice sometimes but put sockets for appliances in cupboards , also at least its accessible and you can isolate without removing appliance , and also most appliances come with a moulded plug top , I wouldn't remove them for warranty issues myself...

 

[Midwest]

Think that's a bit old recommendation, and you have to be realistic, there's a finite length to appliance leads and where they will reach. As I said as long as the socket is securely fixed and accessible, can't be a problem surely? (Sorry replying to Lee)

 

[davesparks]

With integrated appliances I can't see any choice sometimes but put sockets for appliances in cupboards , also at least its accessible and you can isolate without removing appliance , and also most appliances come with a moulded plug top , I wouldn't remove them for warranty issues myself...

What warranty issues?

 

[Midwest]

Think he's referring to the fact if you 'chop off the end of our cable, and our washing machine packs up' your on your own son!

 

[Leesparkykent]

Think he's referring to the fact if you 'chop off the end of our cable, and our washing machine packs up' your on your own son!

I know of someone who had exactly this problem with John Lewis. In the end they did Honour the warranty after kicking up a fuss.

 

[davesparks]

Think he's referring to the fact if you 'chop off the end of our cable, and our washing machine packs up' your on your own son!

Fact? Can you support this supposed fact with any evidence?

I know for a fact, supported by the sale of goods act, that it removing a moulded plug has no effect on the warranty of anything except the plug itself.

 

[davesparks]

I know of someone who had exactly this problem with John Lewis. In the end they did Honour the warranty after kicking up a fuss.

Then John Lewis were in the wrong and the law would have been on the side of the consumer

 

[Midwest]

John Lewis fall over backwards. Try someone like Bosch.

 

[Midwest]

This thread gonna go off course. Mods!

 

[Midwest]

Then John Lewis were in the wrong and the law would have been on the side of the consumer

You two just fallen out?

 

[Leesparkykent]

You two just fallen out?

:drummer:

 

[Midwest]

Sony manual (I know they don't sell washing machines); 'Use only mains leads supplied by Sony'.