Sorry to mention stables again but...

[Percyprod]

Some of you may remember a discussion I had on this forum some time ago regarding my wiring of a stable. The general opinion was that they would burn down, soon after the horses and anyone within a 10 mile radius was electrocuted. Now so far none of this has happened. Now my point was that as the part p didn't apply to stables, and as the regs aren't a legal requirement I could wire them myself, all be it to the relavent regs requirements re installation and testing. Now if it was a shop or factory I assume the Electricity at Work Regs would apply. The stables are purely for personal use, not commercial. Then the other day I had a thought. When I applied for the electricity supply I was told it had to have a proper address, so I rang local council, who said no problem, it will take 10 minutes, and so it did! Only problem was I then got a council tax bill, back dated 3 years! Plus it was rated as a commercial building. When I pointed out that it wasn't commercial, they said there were only 2 rates, domestic or commercial. As it happens I get 100% rate relief, so don't pay anything, but here's the point, as it is rated as a commercial premises, should the EWR now apply? Just interested what others think. Don't really care, just interested.

 

[snowhead]

In light of information published on another thread, it would appear these stables have an employee so therefore would be classed as a place of work and come under EWR.

The evidence;

I paid myself such a low rate it didn't make any difference ti my income, I'm soooo tight!

and a side note, I've just found out you can use a quote from one thread into another .

 

[Percyprod]

Got a proffesional electrician in to fit the earthing straps to the mines. I'm on the 4th one now.

 

[Percyprod]

Got a proffesional electrician in to fit the earthing straps to the mines. I'm on the 4th one now. Curses Snowhead, you've found me out!

 

[Deleted member 26818]

What is EWR?

 

[Dave OCD]

Maybe EAWR ?

 

[Deleted member 26818]

If it’s a work place then the EAWR applies.
If it’s not, then the EAWR does not apply.
I rented a workshop to use as a workshop and garage which had been rated as commercial.
I contacted the Local authority and informed them that it was no longer commercial, and was now only for personal use.

As the garage was no longer used for business and was not a dwelling neither business rates or council tax was charged.

 

[Octopus]

You can lead a horse to water ........

 

[ipf]

You can lead a horse to water ........

…..or a pit pony to a mine....

 

[Spoon]

I see the point of hse being involved in the event of a problem, but if the regs aren't law, does it say anywhere that the hse will or can use them as a standard?

"The Regulations are non-statutory. They may, however, be used in a court of law in evidence to claim compliance with a statutory requirement."

Good luck in court if anything happens due to the wiring you did. You can tell them "but I'm willing to take the risk." and see what they say. I'm sure your insurance will be happy to class all damages as null and void as well.

 

[Percyprod]

Not insured, so no problem there! End of the day, no reason why anything should go wrong as it is wired correctly.