Sources of larger than normal ceiling roses

[Gavin John Hyde]

Got a job fitting some bits and bobs in a house, its a new build and the people who built it butchered the ceiling, even a light weight lamp shade pulls the ceilign roses out of the plaster board, they used rawl plugs and screws and no joist in sight! when they cut open the hole to get to the cable after it was boarded, they left just a few mm that is crumbling and is not able to support the standard 6 inch pendant.
Have seen and come across wider diameter ceiling rose / pendant sets but not 100% who stocks them.
Can't get access to ceiling from above to repair as its just been carpeted throughout!
So options are wider diameter ceiling roses or put some sort of plaster ceiling rose on then screw the standard one to this, the wider diameter will mean i can screw into decent plaster avoiding the butchered edges.
Anybody know who sells the bigger / wider pendant sets or ceiling flex outlets?

 

[Risteard]

Got a job fitting some bits and bobs in a house, its a new build and the people who built it butchered the ceiling, even a light weight lamp shade pulls the ceilign roses out of the plaster board, they used rawl plugs and screws and no joist in sight! when they cut open the hole to get to the cable after it was boarded, they left just a few mm that is crumbling and is not able to support the standard 6 inch pendant.
Have seen and come across wider diameter ceiling rose / pendant sets but not 100% who stocks them.
Can't get access to ceiling from above to repair as its just been carpeted throughout!
So options are wider diameter ceiling roses or put some sort of plaster ceiling rose on then screw the standard one to this, the wider diameter will mean i can screw into decent plaster avoiding the butchered edges.
Anybody know who sells the bigger / wider pendant sets or ceiling flex outlets?

What about screwing into a round dryliner?

 

[MJPD29]

If it is only for a standard ceiling rose could you not slide a bit of timber through the hole and spread the weight?

 

[MJPD29]

If it is only for a standard ceiling rose could you not slide a bit of timber through the hole and spread the weight?

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

What about screwing into a round dryliner?

the plasterboard around the hole is so thin and damaged it wouldnt take a drylining box, the numpties who did the second fix after the plasterers had been around by the looks of it went to work with a plasterboard saw and cut a random hole badly damaging the board when the painters came along it crumbled with the moisture.

 

[telectrix]

cut a square section out, joist to joist, fix a patch with reinforcement.

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

cut a square section out, joist to joist, fix a patch with reinforcement.

not ideal as the customer wants minimal damage and making good due to it being a new build and them only having it a few weeks. Linden homes have made some pretty awful homes on that development, I have done work in 3 houses there now and all have major issues I wouldn't be happy with. She will be submitting my invoice to Linden though so will see what happens.

 

[Toneyz]

I would not always put the full blame on the house builder. I used to find if you have a good site manager MOST trades have a laugh and help each other out and the house is built to a good standard (you always have the one on site that bucks the trend). Seems no cross noggins installed as light between joists.