spark V'S plumbers.........

[fancypantsyeah]

we all know the complexities of becoming a good spark today and the endless courses and qualifications that we need to be able to keep working,,, there is always another course to do or updates ,, yarda, yarda , yarda..
I dont know the plumbing that well but i have mates who are plumbers and apart from GAS SAFE what else do they have to get , or have....LOL........
MY POINT BEING AND I MIGHT BE CONSIDERED BIAS AS I'M A SPARK, BUT WHO HAS THE MORE COMPLEXED TRADE?????? SPARKS OR PLUMBERS ??????
NEVER CEASES TO AMAZE ME HOW EASY THEY SEEM TO HAVE IT THIS NEW PVC PIPE THEY USE JUST CLICKS TOGETHER EASY AS PIE...IT TAKES ME 5 DAYS TO REWIRE A HOUSE PLUMBERS CAN PUT A SYSTEM IN IN 2 DAYS..... JUST SEEMS THEY HAVE IT EASY AND IF YOU WHERE TO ASK ANYONE ON THE STREET THEY WOULD SURGEST THAT PLUMBERS JOB IS MORE COMPLEX THAN A SPARKS........I THINK THAT IS TOSH...............:wink_smile:
COME ON , LET ME KNOW YOUR VIEWS ON THIS ONE ...:wink_smile: I KNOW THIS SHOULD PROVOKE A GOOD RESPONCE.......ALWYS DOES.......

 

[Amp David]

Yes but more like 300 quid a year and no need to get any test equipment calibrated every year.

 

[Steviet]

Have been doing both for about 6 month now and I actually have to say that plumbing just as hard as electrics. Both equally have there difficultys?

The conversation about plastic vs copper we work as anything on show is done in copper anything not in plastic.

 

[Amp David]

Always makes me wonder why some plum-bums decide to use copper pipe when on show but still use those big chunky white plastic speed fit elbows and tees.

Its as though they think copper looks more professional but then ruin it by using push fits.

 

[Steviet]

I actually fully agree with you. Another thing that annoys me is lazy people just using elbows when they could have easily done a nice little bend.

 

[Dave 85]

A lot of the plumbers I know say they wish they had been sparkes. IMO in the domestic setting both are technically **** easy. I sub for a kitchen bathroom company quite a bit. The plumbers are expected to do tiling/plastering/carpentry/painting the lot 9 hours a day for £170. I only do wiring, sometimes start late, leave early and get £225. Personally I think I have it easy.

 

[Amp David]

At least with plumbing you don't have to prove you know whaere to drill or notch the joists. You just bang em through where ever you want to.

See these pics, spent a while deciding on best cable runs then plum-bum comes along and spends 2 hours putting inch holes into 3 inch timbers, BARMY

 

[cdavies33]

Plumbers compare their copper pipe installs to our galv conduit installs! END OF STORY- SPARKS 1-NIL

 

[telectrix]

weight of the world is on a plumber. if he gets it wrong, a pipe leaks, could drown someone.

 

[Steviet]

So gas doesn't kill people?

 

[Top Cat]

Worked with a plumber the other day on a new house. After a few days (and he had nearly finished) he said how hard work it was and so much work to do!!!

I informed him that all he had to do was put 1 rad in each room, in plastic pipe that my 5 year old neice could put together in her sleep!

I had 12 down lights, 6 sockets, 1 TV point, 1 telephone point and 4 wall lights, and that was just the lounge.

Bloody plumbers, bunch of t****'s the lot of them.

 

[Geordie Spark]

Yes but more like 300 quid a year and no need to get any test equipment calibrated every year.

Unless of course you throw away your old fashioned water gauge & buy a hi-tech electronic one & what about the Flue Gas Analyser ???

 

[Geordie Spark]

weight of the world is on a plumber. if he gets it wrong, a pipe leaks, could drown someone.

........... and if it's a gas pipe ?

 

[alarm man]

good as each other really,plumbing isnt just domestic plastic pipes as sparks dont live on just t&e,theres some pretty big water pipes out there..tho those lads call themselves meccy engineers,still a plumber to me..:wink_smile:

 

[Geordie Spark]

I've done it all .... sparking, plumbing, gas fitting & heating & I can honestly say ALL of these trades have their pros & cons & as such NONE are any easier or harder than the other.

As for the quality of the work, cowboys or "near-enough-is-good-enough" merchants exist in all trades. Thankfully I wasn't one of them. My original trade was as a Precision Engineer which was a 6 year apprenticeship and near enough WASN'T good enough EVER !! That ethos has stayed with me throughought my life and in every job/trade I have undertaken.

Early on in my appreticeship, I was told by my boss that a good engineer can turn his hand to anything. He was right.

 

[telectrix]

Early on in my appreticeship, I was told by my boss that a good engineer can turn his hand to anything. He was right.

not quite right. i tried turning my hand to adult movies. i was a complete flop