Speeding ticket for van

[Davisonp]

I just got a speeding ticket because vans have a different speed limit to cars. I was not aware of this, and nor is any van driver I have spoken to since, so just a heads up.

Vans have a limit of 50mph on country roads not 60mph like cars.

There is a van limit of 60mph on Dual Carrages not 70mph like cars.


There are now speed cameras that combine with ANPR cameras to determine the vehicle type and therefore the specific speed limit for the vehicle, which is what caught me.

 

[Flanders]

Yes im afraid it true but i don't get this law , if you have a great big range rover you can go the 70 but if your in a little berlingo you can only go 60. !!! I also wondered if those average speed cameras know if you are in a car of a van ??

 

[ruston]

Depends how fast you were going - you might get a speed awareness course, no points.

 

[dansk]

didn't know that, I drive connect everyday. I thought it was 3500t gross that was limited to 50 on A roads etc.

 

[ruston]

Depends how fast you were going - you might get a speed awareness course, no points.

 

[Flanders]

Yes im afraid it true but i don't get this law , if you have a great big range rover you can go the 70 but if your in a little berlingo you can only go 60. !!! I also wondered if those average speed cameras know if you are in a car of a van ??

 

[ruston]

Yes im afraid it true but i don't get this law , if you have a great big range rover you can go the 70 but if your in a little berlingo you can only go 60. !!! I also wondered if those average speed cameras know if you are in a car of a van ??

Yes They do.

 

[westward10]

Very few people realise this but the law is such that you should know the speed limit no matter what you are driving. Surveys review the lack of awareness for this and I think the dealer/lease company should make this clear.

 

[westward10]

Strange you see many of these vans with "limited to 70 mph" on the back of them.

 

[westward10]

Yes They do.

Always makes me laugh when people speed between the cameras then slow down at the camera not realising it is assessing your speed between the cameras.

 

[ruston]

A car derived van can do 70 on a dual cariageway and motorway.

 

[ruston]

The A1 is bad for that now.

 

[rsgaz]

Strange you see many of these vans with "limited to 70 mph" on the back of them.

How so? They are allowed 70 on a motorway.

 

[westward10]

A car derived van can do 70 on a dual cariageway and motorway.

It is confusing because a car derived van does not need to look like the car it is derived from say for example the Astravan it means it is built on the same chassis base as a car. My Caddy is deemed to be such but I believe it is speed restricted because it exceeds the GVW.

 

[ruston]

I know, if you are in that situation it is best to check as the dvla have admitted a lot have been wrongly registered.

 

[ruston]

From this link.

Car-derived vans and dual purpose vehicles - GOV.UK - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/car-derived-vans-and-dual-purpose-vehicles/car-derived-vans-and-dual-purpose-vehicles




Contents

1. Car derived vans
2. Legal definition of a car derived van
3. How to identify a car derived van
4. Speed limits
5. What to do if you think your vehicle has been incorrectly registered
6. Dual purpose vehicles

Car derived vans
Very few vans will meet the criteria for a car derived van (CDV). Those that do are likely to be similar to a Ford Fiesta van, Vauxhall Corsa or Renault Clio van.

Legal definition of a car derived van
Schedule 6 of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 describes a car derived van as:

‘car-derived van’ means a goods vehicle which is constructed or adapted as a derivative of a passenger vehicle and which has a maximum laden weight not exceeding 2 tonnes.’

How to identify a car derived van
Car derived vans are:

• designed to weigh no more than 2 tonnes when loaded fully
• based on car designs or the vehicle is built from a platform which has been designed and developed to be built as a car or a van by the same manufacturer

As a general rule, from the outside, these vehicles will look like the size of a car, but on the inside the vehicle will look like and function as a van, because:

• there will be no rear seats, rear seat belts or mountings
• there will be a payload area with floor panel in the rear of the vehicle
• there will be no side windows in the rear of the vehicle - or if present, side windows will be opaque and fixed (with no means of opening or closing)

If your van is a CDV, it will be recorded as such under ‘body type’ on the vehicle’s registration document (V5C). If there is any other entry under ‘body type’ the vehicle is not registered as a car derived van and will be subject to speeds lower than the national limits.

Speed limits
Car derived vans are the only light commercial (goods) vehicles which are subject to the same speed limits as a car.

All other light commercial (goods) vehicles, including small vans, are restricted to maximum speed limits applicable to goods vehicles not exceeding 7.5 tonnes maximum laden weight:

• 50mph on single carriageways
• 60mph on dual carriageways
• 70mph on motorways

What to do if you think your vehicle has been incorrectly registered
The Department for Transport recognises that historically some vehicles may have been incorrectly registered.

If you believe your vehicle is a CDV and is not registered as such, for:

• new vehicles - check with the dealer
• older vehicle – check with the manufacturer

Until such time as your vehicle has been re-registered as a CDV (if appropriate) you should comply with the lower speed limits applicable to a goods vehicle. You will need written confirmation that the vehicle qualifies as a CDV from the manufacturer to accompany the re-registration application.

If your goods vehicle is registered as a CDV but it:

• exceeds 2 tonnes maximum laden weight
• does not meet any other of the criteria for a CDV

then it is incorrectly registered and you are not permitted to travel at the national speed limits. You must comply with the lower speed limits applicable to a goods vehicle.

As above please check the registration details with the dealer / manufacturer and re-register with DVLA as appropria