starting off advice

[dipeshparmar198]

Hi all.. i am a newly qualified spark. City and Guilds level 2 and 3 and 17th edition. going through a career change and trying to get into the field. Very frustrated as there is little chance for me to gain experiences. I have very little on site experience so little confidence however very determined and motivated. I studied part time evening college to gain my qualifications however am stuck on work.. I am willing to work for a very competitive rate as a electricians mate and to gain experience. Even to be able to stay with a company or firm. Can anybody give me some advice... please.....

 

[RISElectrical]

Mostly commercial and industrial, currently doing large scale factory works and numerous hospitals, schools etc.

RIS is purely small commercial and occasional domestic. To be honest I have very little involvement with it now as I am busy enough in my full time job, I have a guy (my main foreman) running the day to day jobs etc and I just sort the invoicing and the accounts every month.

This is probably the opposite of your ideal situation, I chose to go back to full time employment (car, pension, holiday and sick pay) as i like the security and the regular wage, especially while the family are young and cost a fortune haha.

I think your plan reads well and I do wish you the best of luck, just more a reality check, meant in the nicest possible way that is isn't easy to get qualified and start a business. Finishing your quals is a good idea, and starting up on your own doing what your doing now is always a good plan as its what you are used to.

 

[Tidy Max]

Cheers mate, yeah i have been on a few tradesman/governing body websites searching for registered sparks in my area....... good lord lol.

Im hoping my cctv/induction loop experience will give me a slight (i realise it will be VERY slight) advantage.

I am ready for it to take over my life, ive spent 5 years with employers who act like employees and employees who act like employers. Im all for the 7-7 on site then a couple of hours paperwork. If your going to graft your ******** off you may aswell do it for yourself (again, may not apply to everyone)


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[Tidy Max]

Sorry i hadnt seen your reply. You must be a very busy man! Job security is the main thing if you have fixed outgoings commitments and responsibilities im sure. But may aswell take advantage of living with mother bear for that bit longer

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[oldtimer]

Yep times are bad a lot of individuals are in a corner that makes them say thats it I am going to do something about it so I will self retrain as an electrician sounds great but in my view it has now become a feeding frenzy with guys trying to get into the trade also the customer is getting more savvy as I am being asked for proof that I am a qualified time served electrician.

I am not trying to put anybody off but as I write this there is a discussion on 5live about how the construction industry is on its arse so yep we have a double dip but will not admit it. We also seem to be an open door for east european sparks who are here for a quick buck add all of this together and it does not look good for the trad at all and I speak as a guy who with 36 years experience who is having a quite week

 

[Dave 85]

Sorry i hadnt seen your reply. You must be a very busy man! Job security is the main thing if you have fixed outgoings commitments and responsibilities im sure. But may aswell take advantage of living with mother bear for that bit longer

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Ma x I havn't read all of this thread but from the posts of yours I have read I like your attitude. Its goos to see you've actually researched what your options are and have acknowledged the potential pitfalls/ repocussions.
To a lot of the people on here with little on the tools experience trying to start their own business I wouldnt be encouraging them much but you seem to be in a good position.
You have said so far:
You live with your parents.
You are qualified
You have worked a lot on building sites
You have people, including domestic sparkies willing to sub work to you
You understand that its not all gonna be rosy

These are all good things..If you have experience with tools, and have got people willing to sub you, thats good, thats how I started out S/E. If you live with your mum you can survive on the inevitable low income that you will recieve for the first few months/years.
If it works out for you and you build up good experience and a customer base, Im sure you'll never look back. I wouldn't change my career for the world (S/E domestic sparky) and being yer own boss is very liberating.

First things you need to buy are van and tools these are what make you a handy subby to have around.

All the best

 

[dipeshparmar198]

Hi Dave I'm a very new sparky and need some experience. Do you have any advice for me? I'm in the process of building my toolbase and no not want to go self employed. I would rather work with somebody

 

[Dave 85]

Hi Dave I'm a very new sparky and need some experience. Do you have any advice for me? I'm in the process of building my toolbase and no not want to go self employed. I would rather work with somebody

Its very tough out there at the moment if you are looking to be employed mate. There are probably 10+ 'qualified electricians' for every job vacancy. Experienced guys will always get first dibs. Not really a lot more I can say.

 

[alarm man]

I thought it was on actually Murdoch #9Im in Bolton), to the left under my join date? I have my 2330 MKS, got my 17th booked and then i am doing the 2391 course and just generally revising alot at the moment. The company i work for specailise in PA systems/ voice alarm/disabled refuge/induction loops etc. When i have applied for jobs i just get told i don't have the correct experience. Where are you based Rise?

if you have a full time job,dont rap it just because you get your quals,keep the fulltime work and build up your own work in your spare time,when your own work get too much then go alone,if it doesnt take off you still have your fulltime job

 

[dipeshparmar198]

I'm willing to work for free and pay for any exam I may need. I have city and guilds level 2 and 3 aswell as 17th edition. Just need a confidence boost

 

[Tidy Max]

Cheers dave, means alot!

Have you considered doing your 2391 dipesh?

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