Stepping on another electricians toes?

[littlespark]

Whats everyone's thoughts on this?

I've been asked to finish off another sparks work. I've not looked at the job yet, but know it mainly involves central heating wiring.
The customer says that the electrician that has done the work up to now cant find the time to finish off, and the heating engineer would like to commission his work.
There has been a number of delays for the customer already and he doesn't want another one.
I don't know if the original spark has been told he's no longer required.
I'll test the supply to the heating, but not the whole installation (unless they ask me to)
If I find something wrong with the rest of the house, do I drop the original spark in it? (I'll post pics here if there is )

 

[electric al]

Has this other spark been paid up for the work he has done up to press ?
I would be very wary ,it sounds to me
that if this new buid punter had difficulties with other trades then
there is usually a problem involving money. Just don't give him everything he needs at yours and others expense.

 

[Delboybully]

Be very careful. I have had this sort of thing.

Firstly only issue an eicr for work that has been completed and tell them to check that is OK with building control if they are involved.

Also do not give them much credit. Get a 25% deposit before you start. Tell them your payment terms and get regular payment.

As a general rule sparkles finish jobs so they can get paid. When one has 'disappeared' there is usually a reason and that is often about money.

Also don't work cheap, stick the money up. My opinion is that you don't want to encourage customers or builders to bin sparkles off after 1st fix and get another sparky in. I have been there twice. I offer eicr and charge 2nd fixed money (50%) to sort it out, this is for white plastic, if they want metal sockets etc it's extra. The customer gets the job done, I don't sign for eic and if they want me to do the job I earn great money.

 

[FatAlan]

....and before anyone suggests, no, I wasn’t down the hospital cos someone had stepped on my toes!

 

[Richard Burns]

....and before anyone suggests, no, I wasn’t down the hospital cos someone had stepped on my toes!

So you were in detention at the hospital because you stepped on someone else's toes!

 

[littlespark]

Heres what I know now. The original spark is too busy just now, and customers had organised a replacement heating engineer to commission the boiler, so they needed a stand in quickly.
The original heating engineer created a number of problems... supplying a second hand boiler, installing a pump when there was on in the boiler and running the gas pipe in the wrong place. GasSafe got involved.
In the end, the commissioning didn't get done, so it was a waste of time for them to get me involved.
Ive got the number of the spark, and I'm going to speak to him, explaining what ive done and see if he minds me getting involved, or indeed finishing the job for him.

The customer is a builder himself, so I don't think non-payment is an issue... He would lose jobs if played around like that.

 

[buzzlightyear]

Ive got the number of the spark, and I'm going to speak to him, explaining what ive done and see if he minds me getting involved, or indeed finishing the job for him.

The customer is a builder himself, so I don't think non-payment is an issue... He would lose jobs if played around like that.

its not down to you to speak to the last spark. its down to the last person who employed him ..has for the builder they like to nail you boots down for a good price .

 

[ruston]

its not down to you to speak to the last spark. its down to the last person who employed him ..has for the builder they like to nail you boots down for a good price .

I agree with you , but I would still like a word with him for his side. There may be more to it.
A builder who cannot recognize a cowboy at work...

 

[littlespark]

The electrician wasn't the problem....
However, I'm having a lil problem with the wiring for the boiler. Everything was already supplied, but theres no installation instructions on site. I'll be posting what I know on the heating forum.

The customer being a builder means he's handy with the bricks.... but he doesn't know what the electrical or gas work entails.
As long as he pays, eh.

 

[HandySparks]

However, I'm having a lil problem with the wiring for the boiler. Everything was already supplied, but theres no installation instructions on site.

You can usually download all the instructions from the manufacturer's website.

 

[littlespark]

You can usually download all the instructions from the manufacturer's website.

Yes, I did.. but what had been connected before I got there didn't correspond to any diagram.

 

[weevilward]

[QUOTE="littlespark, post: 1306142, member: 103809"]I just hope he hasn’t ballsed up the wiring between the stats, valves and programmer.
I don’t personally know the customer, but it’s a small town, I’ll know someone that knows someone that knows them.
I can’t imagine it’s only the heating that needs finished off, it’s a new build. It could develop into more work

Nowt like finding you're one conductor short,as the paint dries on the new plaster...[/QUOTE]

There's always the CPC - just sleeve it brown and jobs a goodun....

 

[EddieB]

I'd look at it, check that the wiring is all there, room stat , programmer etc etc connect it test it , turn it on and take the dough.

 

[littlespark]

I'd look at it, check that the wiring is all there, room stat , programmer etc etc connect it test it , turn it on and take the dough.

Turning it on was a problem too.... There wasn't a dedicated circuit to the boiler.. the feed was coming from the downstairs RFC, which wasn't finished. The upstairs sockets were on, so I made up a flex with a plugtop just to check everything worked.