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eckersecker

I work at a factory and they have just banned the use of all knives on site. I have side cutters, but can anyone recommend a tool for nicking ordinary flex to get outer sheath off as I used to use my knife. Also is there a tool that works for stripping the inner and outer sheaths when doing SWA?
I'm guessing I need at least 2 different tools.
 
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Thats just plain silly. What sort of factory is it? An explosives factory?

I work in custody suites with crims wandering around while I walk past with boxes of knifes and saws and hammers....
 
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This is no uncommon these days health and safety we usa a auto knife which the blade only protrudes whilst the handle is gripped this should over come any issuses you work place may have. they take some getting used to though.
 
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Kewtech do a device for stripping SWA outer sheaths and also for scoring the steel wire prior to snapping it off.

Do as they say - we must all keep those nice Health & Safety people busy!!!

I've decided in my next life, I'm coming back only to monitor and measure others. It's far easier than having to acually deliver something!!!
 
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I'm so glad i'm coming to an end of my working life ................................knives are banned ............dear oh dear oh dear.

Can quite understand this as I can count on the fingers of one hand, that is providing I have 5 fingers, how many of use sparks are walking around with a digits missing, damaged or whatever due to cutting cables with a knife ........let me see NONE

When is this silliness going to stop. There are so many H&S myths, and most are rubbish, but this one looks like it's the beauty.
 
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Get yourself a cyclops. Maplin definitely sell em. I use one when I work in airports and they let them through security. Banning knives? It gets worse everyday.
 
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Don't you just love these idiots at H&S, they have substantially contributed to the demise of British manufacturing and to it's exports, seems there not quite finished yet either!! lol!!

You won't find a single British H&S officer on any overseas building project, as international contractors tend to want to be able to build and finish the job!! The last ones i saw was on the MTRC project in HK. They caused so many kerfuffles and delays that the Asian contractors consortium's were ready to pull out of the contract. They were all sent home (not a moment too soon) and mainly replaced with Aussie's Kiwi's and Canadians H&S officers...
 
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Went through security an Manchester airport last month. I had a 120mm x 14mm SDS drill in my bag. Brand new - still on the display card. It got pulled of course, but as I got through with a 9" circular saw blade last time I thought it shouldn't be a problem. Anyway, the drill was confiscated and I went through to the departure lounge and ordered some breakfast and helped myself to a plastic knife and a metal fork from the cutlery counter. So what is it about the security thing? why is a blunt (or at least non-sharp) drill bit, which has little chance than inflicting more injury than a curling tongue, more of a danger than a plastic knife - quite able to cut through meat, and full size metal fork on an airplane? Unless you happen to be the 'Blue Rajah', of course.
 
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Although nothing to do with H&SE, airport security is going exactly the same way!! All this OTT security was started by the Yanks, and forced on to others. Now it has become yet another way of taking money off of ALL passengers in the way of extra charges, which of course is also Taxed!!!.
 
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Thanks for comments. Yes they banned "ordinary" stanley knives years ago. We were allowed to use the pop in ones as mentioned above. They were a pain as the blade retracts all the time. But now no knives at all.
 
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eckersecker said:
I work at a factory and they have just banned the use of all knives on site. I have side cutters, but can anyone recommend a tool for nicking ordinary flex to get outer sheath off as I used to use my knife. Also is there a tool that works for stripping the inner and outer sheaths when doing SWA?
I'm guessing I need at least 2 different tools.
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We all know who the TOOLS are!!
 
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I'm guessing it's in case someone flips out and starts stabbing people but I just took a little peek in my toybox and there's any amount of pointy things in there, even my 3.5mm tap could be driven into someones eye if they annoyed me enough:)
 
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my firm banned stanley knives of all types we use knipex knives now, but in my opinion a blunt knife is more dangerous than a stanley blade because with a stanley you dont have to put so much pressure when you cut...
 
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I’ve only ever cut a finger once with a knife at work once. One I was passed by another electrician while I was stuck in the back of a panel. He passed me his own, it was blunt!

Electricians and sharp knives go together, they’re part of the skills you learn. We’ll end up like butchers having to wear chain mail gloves next! (The bloody HSE would insist they’re earthed).

If anyone tried to take my 20 year old Tysak screw retractable knife off me they’ll have boot prints all over their back.

The auto retract knives sound good in theory but you work in the dirty environments I’ve been in they’ll soon gum up and stick. You slip it in your pocket thinking the blades retracted only to find it hasn’t the next time you need it.

A tradesman knows the tools he needs and should know how to use them.

I wonder what they’d make of my hack knife used for paper leads.
 
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Its usually a case of some up his jacksy office working type who has not the slightest skill for using hand tools,he justifies his importance by coming up with ill informed nonsense

This is not the first because I recall a thread a while back with some other muppet upsetting the local spark

A good clear out of these numpties in this recession would make it worthwhile
 
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As said, a sharp knife is .... essential as far as I'm concerned. I have cut my finger with it but a bit of tape and a couple of days and you'd never know. Thats partly because it was (and always is kept) almost surgically sharp. The cut wasso clean it just pressed back together.

About twenty years ago I did a stint as a carpet fitter. The bloke training me's hands' were a tapestry of scars, in fact I nearly passed out once when I saw the cut he had on his thumb - he just shrugged and gaffer taped it up, it healed up like all the others, he was more worried about getting blood on the skirting.

It is crazy. The only reason I am talking like this is because I work for myself and am a bit older. They'll never take my knife.

What a load of cobblers.
 
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Des 56 said:
Its usually a case of some up his jacksy office working type who has not the slightest skill for using hand tools,he justifies his importance by coming up with ill informed nonsense

This is not the first because I recall a thread a while back with some other muppet upsetting the local spark

A good clear out of these numpties in this recession would make it worthwhile
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YES! too right
 
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SPARTYKUS said:
As said, a sharp knife is .... essential as far as I'm concerned. I have cut my finger with it but a bit of tape and a couple of days and you'd never know. Thats partly because it was (and always is kept) almost surgically sharp. The cut wasso clean it just pressed back together.

About twenty years ago I did a stint as a carpet fitter. The bloke training me's hands' were a tapestry of scars, in fact I nearly passed out once when I saw the cut he had on his thumb - he just shrugged and gaffer taped it up, it healed up like all the others, he was more worried about getting blood on the skirting.

It is crazy. The only reason I am talking like this is because I work for myself and am a bit older. They'll never take my knife.

What a load of cobblers.
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How will the carpet fitters manage when these buffoons get their ideas accepted by voting a ban on the sharp and pointy s.

I can picture a carpet fitter with a circular saw,but no doubt that would only be a stop gap
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I recon they should ban tea and coffee in offices and in fact any liquid, they could spill the hot drink over them and burning them and worse knock it over and spill it over the expensive office equipment! And then before going for a cuppa they should read the risk assessment for it. And sign a book to understand the risks involved, just encase they decide to sue the company they work for. When they burn their self's.
 
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and their pens and pencils. they're sharp. let them write their silly rules with a 1/2" wide felt tip.
 
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If everything in the workplace was analysed by some of these H&S bods they would find an issue with all of it and nothing would get done. In the average toolbox a knife is just one of many items that can be perceived as dangerous that can inflict injury or harm, if they ban screwdrivers because they are sharp then that will be the slippery slope to banning electricity as we cannot tighten the terminals

Worked on a site once where the previous H&S officer was fired as no maintenance or capital work was done in two and a half years because he had the site tied in knots with his H&S rules and found reason to stop nearly all of the proposed work

Let's face it actually travelling to work is dangerous as there is a slight possibility of being in a fatal collision but nobody has banned that yet
 
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peterdaniels said:
my firm banned stanley knives of all types we use knipex knives now, but in my opinion a blunt knife is more dangerous than a stanley blade because with a stanley you dont have to put so much pressure when you cut...
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Agreed.

I was a Training Instructor in an engineering company, and I can honestly say I saw more injuries caused by folk struggling to make a blunt tool work than a sharp one.
 
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Engineer54 said:
Come on, tell me , ....so what's the reason they are using behind this daft knife ban then??
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Spring loaded knives were ok with cut proof gloves, but it has now been decided that the knife may slip and slice into the leg. On the machines the material produced has to be cut off, they banned the use of blades for this a while back and use a boomerang shaped thing. The engineering part of the works were ok to use the spring loaded knives with gloves but they have now decided to go the whole hog.
 
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tell them to ban biro.s too,I,ve been shown how to kill with one,far more dangerous than your average knife,and if they banned biro,s you won,t have so much paperwork lol
 
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