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[sean_ork]

That's a politicians trick, ignoring a question by answering it with another question.

So what form of extra judicial punishment are you advocating ? castration ? throw them off a building ? hanging ? bullet between the eyes ?


Me ? - I'd be happy with whatever punishment our legal system deemed to suit the crime, that's what civilised folks in civilised places tend to do.

 

[Englishman]

So you're happy with people who hoard sexual pictures of children getting suspended sentences? Community orders? You're happy that rapists get 5 years, yet someone who defrauds the taxman gets 18? If that makes me uncivilised, then I'm proud of that fact.

I'm not gonna sit here and make threats, but I don't advocate death, that's too kind, there would be a lot more pain, and for a lot longer time than just simple murder.

If you're asking me what I'd like to see happen to child sex offenders or rapists, then I'll answer it. I would love to send them down a slide, underground, with a nice 20ft drop at the end, enough to break a leg or ankles. I would then just leave them there to die. These sort of scum need eradicating and deserve nothing but a slow, painful death.

 

[sean_ork]

So you're happy with people who hoard sexual pictures of children getting suspended sentences? Community orders? You're happy that rapists get 5 years, yet someone who defrauds the taxman gets 18? .

No, you've just assumed that.

 

[IrishSpark]

So you'd want some form of retribution to supliment whatever our legal system had deemed to fit his crime ?

Unfortunately the British justice system doesn't see castration and leg breaking as acceptable puishment against paedos so yeah there would need to be retribution alongside whatever slap on the wrists the court gives him!

 

[IrishSpark]

No, you've just assumed that.

He actually didn't assume that, it's what you said above sean. You said abouve that ud be happy with whatever sentence the courts imposed and as the example Englishman presented is commonplace then you must actually be happy sex offenders get lenient sentences!

 

[sean_ork]

So you're happy with people who hoard sexual pictures of children getting suspended sentences? Community orders? You're happy that rapists get 5 years, yet someone who defrauds the taxman gets 18? .

This is what he's assumed, he's conflated my disagreement with his sadistic retribution with the acceptance of the above - I said no such thing.

 

[Englishman]

This is what he's assumed, he's conflated my disagreement with his sadistic retribution with the acceptance of the above - I said no such thing.

There was no assumption

Me ? - I'd be happy with whatever punishment our legal system deemed to suit the crime, that's what civilised folks in civilised places tend to do.

So you're saying that you're happy with the derisory sentences handed out to child sex offenders, because that's what the punishment that "the legal system deemed to suit the crime" thereby saying that you're happy with all sentences handed out to child sex offenders, because the vast majority of these are given a slap on the wrist and very few see the inside of a prison cell.

And child sex offenders deserve the most sadistic punishment available and nothing less. And I would be happy to carry this out, as I'm sure most on here would.

 

[sean_ork]

There was no assumption

So you're saying that ........

You don't get it do you


You've said you've not made an assumption, yet you follow that comment with an assumption of what I am saying.


You then follow up with a complete work of fiction about the fate of child sex offenders

"the vast majority of these are given a slap on the wrist and very few see the inside of a prison cell"



Do you really beleive that to be true ?

 

[eddieboy]

There is always two sides to every story and although I've not kept upto date with the Johnson case I have "followed" the Ched Evans case. Please have a read of his website.
Ched Evans Was Wrongly Convicted of Rape on 20th April 2012 | Ched Evans Official Website
Imagine if he's innocent.

 

[sean_ork]

There is always two sides to every story and although I've not kept upto date with the Johnson case I have "followed" the Ched Evans case. Please have a read of his website.
Ched Evans Was Wrongly Convicted of Rape on 20th April 2012 | Ched Evans Official Website
Imagine if he's innocent.

Maybe he is innocent, but why was he found guilty, why did the court of appeal reject his challenge ?


He's fortunate to have a few quid, so he can afford to employ advocates for his lost cause.


That website is a nonsense - photos of him holding kids, with a cute dog, at a wedding - portraying him as just another bloke.


An entire page stating that the victim deleted some of her online content, implying it was relevant to the defences case.


Another page detailing how many visitors the site has had and how much "support" he has.


It's just paid for propaganda, his legal team will be very happy - until his wallet is empty.


Here's a less biased view of that case.


The Ched Evans case shows rape victim-blamers are getting scared | Joan Smith | Opinion | The Guardian

 

[Englishman]

You don't get it do you


You've said you've not made an assumption, yet you follow that comment with an assumption of what I am saying.


You then follow up with a complete work of fiction about the fate of child sex offenders

"the vast majority of these are given a slap on the wrist and very few see the inside of a prison cell"



Do you really beleive that to be true ?

Let me ask you something Sean.

Do you consider somebody who hoards thousands of pictures and videos of children either naked or involved in sexual acts to be "child sex offenders"?

 

[sean_ork]

Let me ask you something Sean.

Do you consider somebody who hoards thousands of pictures and videos of children either naked or involved in sexual acts to be "child sex offenders"?

How about you answer my question to you above first ?


With something other than an opinion, as its rather a sweeping statement you've made.

 

[Englishman]

How about you answer my question to you above first ?


With something other than an opinion, as its rather a sweeping statement you've made.

That depends on your definition of child sex offenders.

Now, all my question requires is a simple yes or no, so please answer.

 

[telectrix]

to get back to the real world. at least blunderland have beaten the devil. 2-1.

 

[sean_ork]

.......... thereby saying that you're happy with all sentences handed out to child sex offenders, because the vast majority of these are given a slap on the wrist and very few see the inside of a prison cell.

I've made it easy for you - you've stated that very few child sex offenders see the inside of a prison cell


I asked do you really beleive that to be true ?


My definition of what a child sex offender is totally irrelevant, unless I'm a jury member considering the evidence before me. That's how justice is supposed to work in this Country, everyone is presumed innocent until judged by a jury of their peers with due regard to the laws of the land. If someone is found guilty of hoarding images then he is clearly guilty of whatever law he was prosecuted under. Feel free to add easy to understand labels if you want, but there's been a few rather unfortunate misinterpretations of such label - some with very tragic consequences.


Now how about you answer my question ?