Swapping out a cooker switch

[shanky887614]

whats wrong with a cooker point with built in socket?

no need to fusedown is there, afterall the plug will have either a 13amp or slow blow fuse

 

[Midwest]

Think he was on about plugging electric oven into socket on cooker outlet...could be wrong, wouldn't look that great in most circumstances IMO.

 

[Paul.M]

No it isn't, it does nothing to protect people from drilling holes in to cables, it reduces the likelihood of them receiving a fatal shock when they drill into a cable and make contact with a live wire.

Splitting hairs Davesparks? Whatever.

 

[Hellmooth]

Pedantic.......

 

[Dave OCD]

I think the OP is saying that the existing cooker circuit is fed via a 100ma RCD [possibly a 15th/16th edition dual 30/100ma board on a TT system which was perfectly acceptable in its time] and his concern is that by changing the panel to a normal socket he'd then be contravening current and previous regs by not having 30ma RCD protection - yes I know there are assumptions here but I'm trying to be positive and if this was the case then the 'cooker' MCB could simply be transferred to the 30ma side of the board or if not feasible then just reconnect the cable as a spur off the appropriate ring MCB at the DB.

 

[7029 dave]

Pedantic.......

Yeah,.......... yawn lol

 

[davesparks]

Then by definition it 'protect(s) stupid people from drilling holes into cables'. Think your splitting hairs.

No it doesn't! It does not protect them from drilling the hole, it limits the severity of the electric shock they receive once they have drilled the hole.
How on earth would an RCD protect someone from drilling in to the cable?

 

[davesparks]

Splitting hairs Davesparks? Whatever.

No it's not 'whatever'! There is a big difference between protecting someone from drilling in to a cable and limiting the severity of the shock they receive if they do drill in to it.

 

[Midwest]

No it's not 'whatever'! There is a big difference between protecting someone from drilling in to a cable and limiting the severity of the shock they receive if they do drill in to it.

Digging hole for yourself comes to mind.

 

[shanky887614]

No it's not 'whatever'! There is a big difference between protecting someone from drilling in to a cable and limiting the severity of the shock they receive if they do drill in to it.

Digging hole for yourself comes to mind.

 

[Midwest]

:leaving:

 

[davesparks]

Digging hole for yourself comes to mind.

Go on then, how does an RCD protect someone from drilling into cables?

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Go on then, how does an RCD protect someone from drilling into cables?

I believe it limits the severity of the shock they may get.

 

[davesparks]

I believe it limits the severity of the shock they may get.

Which exactly what I said, and am apparently wrong about. He is saying it protects them from drilling in to the cable, I want to know how he thinks it does this.

 

[Richard Burns]

Really I am sure that you can follow that the specific wording of the phrase "additional protection device to protect people from drilling holes into cables" would be interpreted as "protect people from the effects of drilling holes into cables" or "protect people who are drilling holes into cables".
A slight miswording of a phrase is not something to get steamed up over.