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[paul wild]

hi guys,
just having a debate over switch wires not being marked up,
one guy says its a code 3
one says if you don't understand what the cable does and where it goes you should not be in the fitting in the first place.
care to comment guys

 

[Andy78]

I expect to see it in every installation I arrive at to be honest, it's that commonplace. Yes, a code 3 on an EICR too.

 

[paul wild]

thanks Andy78
the scenario of the ID switch wire came up after my friend changed a light fitting on a new build and found no ID on the switch wires,
NIC registered install too

 

[Darkwood]

Its a requirement now if the cable is not of a phase colour (earth conductors not to be used for L or N of course), so as you testing to the 17th you will need to code it as suggested, yes also you colleague is correct you should be suitably competent in the first place but the regs are designed to reduce confusion and accidents and this is one area DIYers often balls up as well as the less competent sparks.

When you say ID are we talking about marking up the black (old colours) or the blue (new colours) with a sleeve to identify it as a phase conductor?

 

[7029 dave]

I can see both sides, we used twin red (old colours) on switch drops with t&e or sleeving red/black, brown tape would not be a fail?, it's been id. thoughts.?

 

[paul wild]

new colours
but ending up with 2 blues at the pendent if you know what i mean and no sleeving

 

[Octopus]

Life is too short to give C3's to unmarked switch cables

 

[Guest55]

about the only relevent thing said in this thread ^^^.

 

[PEG]

...Must be a slow news day...if i have to comment,it would be to say how disappointed i would be,if i read a previously completed EICR,with code 3's for missing cable ID's,and everything important Limmed out...

 

[Sintra]

If more people would buy the correct cable ie. twin brown PVC/PVC or in old money twin red PVC/PVC then this problem would never be an issue. Always wondered why this is not normal practice on the mainland.

 

[Lucien Nunes]

A tagged blue gives more information at a glance (i.e. which is L & SL) than twin brown. The browns might be different but not so obvious.

 

[Guest77]

hi guys,
just having a debate over switch wires not being marked up,
one guy says its a code 3
one says if you don't understand what the cable does and where it goes you should not be in the fitting in the first place.
care to comment guys

Oh no------------

 

[IzzyS]

Page 17, Best Practice Guide No. 4 - "Does not give rise to danger or need improvement" = no code.

Best Practice Guides | Electrical Safety First

But that's just their opinion.