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[jason121]

Maybe you could share your secret to pricing - I'm clearly doing something wrong cos I can't get anywhere near those prices and like everyone else on here I'd like to be able to get near that for our customers .....

I have done the figures allowing 2 days 2 guys for install both sparkies, its tight but can be done.
To be fair i dont think he his leaving enough a side for those rainy days.
I dont know what rail system he is using i based it on schueco.
Do you use segen SRE ?

 

[SRE]

I do - but it's a long winter ahead and I want to be around for my customers if anything goes wrong. I guess it's the same old argument of working solely in pv or having it as a bolt on to an existing business with shared overheads. I just couldn't make any money at those prices so I might as well flip burgers at Mcdonalds with a lot less hassle.

 

[jason121]

Its all on there portal
quick design it
are you just PV

 

[ktech]

This is based on 3 fitters over one day. Most jobs we complete in a day with three installers, otherwise it's 2 installers over a day and a half. SRE i'll pm you the type of costs we are working on, it would be interesting how you compare it with what your working with.

 

[ktech]

About 85% of our business is PV. The remainder is our usual electrical contracting which has worked well as when solar has gone quiet in the past we have been able to catch up on all the commercial electrical work that generally builds up. I'm not sure how purely PV companies have managed to cope with the ups and downs over the last year I would expect that traditional electrical businesses that started doing PV would have been better placed than many.

 

[jason121]

Seeing that i started it i am very interested in this
i use steca, suntech and schletter or schueco for rails.
I by bulk for discounts and to reduce delivery costs.
[email protected]

 

[SpitfireW'sale]

We stock Renusol in addition to Schuco, Klixx and our own BritSol. Renusol and BritSol are similarly priced and considerably more cost effective than Schuco, I'm not exactly sure how they compare to Schletter to be fair, but if you would like a quote for a typical system feel free to get in touch.

 

[jason121]

i have over 100 rails
500 plus anchors
20 ac isolators and dc isolators
5 sma SB3800
3 STECA 3.6
1 FRONIUS IGTL4.0
2 POWER ONE 10.0


i must be mad all from last gold rush

 

[Energetic]

About 85% of our business is PV. The remainder is our usual electrical contracting which has worked well as when solar has gone quiet in the past we have been able to catch up on all the commercial electrical work that generally builds up. I'm not sure how purely PV companies have managed to cope with the ups and downs over the last year I would expect that traditional electrical businesses that started doing PV would have been better placed than many.

So by your own admission your PV prices are UNsustainable as a standalone part of the business and are subsidised by the rest of your company.

PV companies cope with the fluctuations by charging a fair rate for the work they do as specialists.

 

[jason121]

he going for high volume of installs 20 a month and reasonable profit margin not bad income if you can get it

 

[ktech]

So by your own admission your PV prices are UNsustainable as a standalone part of the business and are subsidised by the rest of your company.

PV companies cope with the fluctuations by charging a fair rate for the work they do as specialists.

You only have to look at the DECC figures around the same time many installers on here commenting on lack of interest. My point was that when times have been quiet for all of us it helps for the business to be from an electrical background that can easily source additional work to fill the gap.

So by your own admission you seem to imply that working on higher margins means you can cope with not doing work. This would seem to be subsidising the quiet times with the additional margin you made when it was busy. So I guess we are both subsidising in one way or another just different business models?

 

[Gavin A]

Have none of you got anything else better to do? It's my website, it's my company. I have posted the odd time on here myself so it's no secret. The price and product model works well for us and is good value for customers.

We do complete structual surveys on all work, include an EPC, we do include a 10 yr insurance backed warranty and on the online monitoring is via OWL Intuition. As of today we are updating our site so yes some references may still exist to the 21p rate but on the whole we are making good progress in updating this.

Any more questions? (probably regret asking that lol)

tbh I'd expect most companies would be doing at least a brief check of what their competition were up to at this point, and I reckon you came out pretty well from the comments on the thread.

It looks like you're doing quality jobs at a very good price, though we were about to start offering virtually the same kit at a very similar price (slightly more for power one vs stecca, but the stecca looks very good for single string so we may well switch for single string roofs anyway).

So credit where credit's due really... and we're also just in the process of updating the website for new pricing, new FIT rate etc as I suspect most on here are.

 

[Gavin A]

You only have to look at the DECC figures around the same time many installers on here commenting on lack of interest. My point was that when times have been quiet for all of us it helps for the business to be from an electrical background that can easily source additional work to fill the gap.

So by your own admission you seem to imply that working on higher margins means you can cope with not doing work. This would seem to be subsidising the quiet times with the additional margin you made when it was busy. So I guess we are both subsidising in one way or another just different business models?

I agree that the key to survival here is finding work to fill in the quiet times. Our problem is that our original plan was to have the solar water heating side of things to fill in the gaps in PV and vice versa, which would have worked well if DECC hadn't decided to keep moving the RHI scheme backwards.

 

[Eco Deal]

We have been offering YINGLI 265W & STECA 3600 for some time now but today we reduced our prices of our solar power systems to keep up with the market and companys offering systems at £5995 , however we are offering much better panels then the cheap jetion polys and sticing with quality monos.

we updated our website to 16p a while back now.

tbh I'd expect most companies would be doing at least a brief check of what their competition were up to at this point, and I reckon you came out pretty well from the comments on the thread.

It looks like you're doing quality jobs at a very good price, though we were about to start offering virtually the same kit at a very similar price (slightly more for power one vs stecca, but the stecca looks very good for single string so we may well switch for single string roofs anyway).

So credit where credit's due really... and we're also just in the process of updating the website for new pricing, new FIT rate etc as I suspect most on here are.

 

[babba]

MEP do you pay to advertise on here ? ... not being silly but some companys logos have been removed ?