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Firm i use to work for Had the apprentice out with me and this day I HAD to be somewhere which meant I couldnt drop him home so nearest train station on my road home He did a "letter" to the boss listing all sorts of keech such as me slagging off his hair cut to the way irefered to a female member of staff as "the ----" yes he got me into bother NOT for anything in his letter but for taking him home at all as it was up to him to make his own way to work Re the ---- she knew thats how I refered to her as when she phoned me id answer with "What can I do for my ---- today?"
The said apprenctice and I were split up but as we still worked for same squad our paths crossed now n then I tried to "Shake on it " but he was a huffy bam n never came to the apprentices leaving night as he fell out with everyone else
Banter is common place and is IMO a requirement of the job its knowing and defining "banter" from "Abuse" bescomes difficult
Id go back Head down Arse up n get on with work unless you have a need to talk to this guy just talk to his superior
 
I will have more pleasure going in tomorrow knowing he now has to do what I say whilst working there with regards to clearing areas prior to me working.

I sent an email off, and had a reply already, in their words its turns out he has become a "bit of an egomanic recently" and they are glad that someone has finally said something so they can 'have a word' with him as he seems to have made everyone else afraid to say anything. After a good chat by email the table has just been turned on him.
Oh did I mention that I and the MD are good friends?

Right to clear up before others start wading in I'm not questioning your ability,not in the slightest,in fact you sound pretty conscientious using a Hoover simultaneously, it's merely the fact that in industry particularly you have to work with people a million times worse than him all the time and if people like him get up your snout then heaven forbid if you go into a factory where the men are in dispute etc,in that case I'd say your better off doing domestic type work and just dealing with the public.
As for writing in "abuse" to a contract then your dreaming because your idea of abuse and mine are probably completely different,yes of course someone referring to your race,origin,sexuality etc is wrong,but how far can you go?im fat,I know I am and often I play it into conversation first incase someone doesn't know if their crossing the line,yet I know others who must see something different in the mirror to what you and I see,my usual means of dealing when the skinny ones get a bit cocky is simply to reply to them that they get cold quicker than me and won't float as well.
Your friends with the md,that's but sadly they all say that the other party is an idiot etc,that's standard evasive management technique rule 2 paragraph one,however put them in the room together with you not around and I'll bet my bottom dollar he's telling the other guy EXACTLY the same thing.
Im taking it this other guy is a permanent employee and your a contractor?if that's the case then it will always go in HIS favour as the md will have a lot more hassle trying to discipline him as he has the might of the union/workforce behind him.
Whether they dislike him or not isn't the issue,if they take your side and something happens in the future with a different contractor who's not in the right like you are,it'll be hard to get the backing as a precedents been set.scrub the last paragraph if your a company employee.
I was an union rep in my last place,it was a militant factory as well and often you found yourself representing people who really don't deserve even a second of your valuable time but sadly that £2 a week makes people feel that they can do what they want and you somehow should dig them out of the crap even when,as happened to me once,the persons been caught sleeping red handed and tries telling you it's the managers fault for asking him to do his job!!!
really sorry if it came out the wrong way,it's just I've been exactly where you are a few times and often it's easier to let karma deal with it to stop it getting messy.
 
I have spent the last 18 years in the industrial sector, today was probably me taking a different approach to dealing with this particular idiot, believe me, this is NOT normally my approach ever, rewind ten years and I'd have probably smacked him. FYI no union and the others think he is a ----er.

Rather than trying to analyse me, just reply to my original question in the first post, if you can't do that please move on.

I wanted an answer if anyone has it in their T&C's, thats all nothing else.
 

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