Test and inspect

[Noton1205]

Hi all, my uncle is having an extension built so im doing the wiring for that and also re wiring the rest of the house. Can anyone issue me a cert for the building regs people. I live in east kent. Ta in advance.

 

[robsparky1975]

It's basically about money, nothing to do with being competent in this case!! Why should a qualified electrician be put in this position when wanting to wire his own house if it's not about money!!!

Too right

 

[tuckermot]

Hi eeezie

I gave up on part p reg last year in theory its a good idea but no customer knows or really cares about it i am just picking up minor and non notifiable work at mo but i am getting notifiables all the time so i just pass the work on less hassel for me not sure what ia am going to do going forward hopefuly they will just make it so qualified people can do part p and do away with this very poor pat p scheme

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Hi eeezie

I gave up on part p reg last year in theory its a good idea but no customer knows or really cares about it i am just picking up minor and non notifiable work at mo but i am getting notifiables all the time so i just pass the work on less hassel for me not sure what ia am going to do going forward hopefuly they will just make it so qualified people can do part p and do away with this very poor pat p scheme

Well they are wanting to ensure that those applying for part p meet new criteria....holding a recognised level 3 qual such as 2330 level 3. Now then, how much of this is about the poor standards of install by some 6 week wonders and how much is about cash we will see....i suspect its a bit of both and i also think that given the amount of counterfeit goods about now (in particular MCBs and RCDs).....then isn`t this also a good way of ensuring that those being allowed onto these schemes will have had it drilled into them at college that we should ALWAYS perform inspection and testing when installing as i suspect a lot of fast track "installers" arn`t doing properly at the mo`. This will pick up any counterfeit goods that dont comply before signoff..........

 

[wattsup]

Its all about dosh, nothing to do with skill or ability or competent...plain and simple jobs for the boys and protection money.

A spark can wire a school/swimming pool/changing room etc, but not his mothers shower?

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Its all about dosh, nothing to do with skill or ability or competent...plain and simple jobs for the boys and protection money.

A spark can wire a school/swimming pool/changing room etc, but not his mothers shower?

The cash issue wont change as its an easy earner and lets face it......cash for doing nowt is one of the "grails" of the age were in...isn`t it........

 

[Octopus]

Because im a competant electrician and it will be a dam sight cheaper for me to do it. If i cant get a local spark to sign it off i will just have to get the council to do it.

Fair do's, your OP didn't suggest any competance. No doubt your Uncle will passs you some notes for dong the job. Yes you'll be cheaper than a spark but most of us have business overheads to cover and then pay tax and NI.

Unfortunately people think what we charge per hour, is what we earn, but very sadly that's our gross income before all the overheads of insurance, scheme membership, vehicle, vehicle running costs, tools, tax and NI!

 

[johnboy6083]

Fair do's, your OP didn't suggest any competance. No doubt your Uncle will passs you some notes for dong the job. Yes you'll be cheaper than a spark but most of us have business overheads to cover and then pay tax and NI.

Unfortunately people think what we charge per hour, is what we earn, but very sadly that's our gross income before all the overheads of insurance, scheme membership, vehicle, vehicle running costs, tools, tax and NI!

Having spoken to Neil on the blower yesterday about this job, its for a member of his family, whos suffering from cancer, and will need a carer. As such, some of this family members relatives are moving back from germany, and this extension is to house them. Ive suggested trying to get the council to let me test the job as an independant 3rd party for no re-numeration (i wouldnt charge anyway as the OP is my best mate), im gold card JIB, 2391 ect, and i would be there during 1st and second fix. I dont know if they would allow it, maybe they will because of the circumstances.

Ive wired a rebuilt property before with Neil, in the same area, and they refused to accept my cert when the building inspector came around to sign the whole building off. Another spark had to come in and do a PIR. I think this is madness, but what can i do about it?

 

[telectrix]

a JIB gold card is proof of competence, just as much, probably better than membership of all the scams added together. IMO, the LABC have no right to refuse your certification, and should be shot.

 

[Noton1205]

Spoke to LABC today, if i fill out a form and give them £190 they will arrange a sparks to check the first fix, then test and inspect.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Spoke to LABC today, if i fill out a form and give them £190 they will arrange a sparks to check the first fix, then test and inspect.

And i bet its a short form n all....well they wont want you having second thoughts about parting with 190 quid whilst jotting down will they...lol.........

 

[SirKit Breaker]

I am very happy to no longer be a part of this scam. I can now spend my £500 a year plus the cost of the new books I would have had to buy, on something nice like BEER.....:rockon2:

Cheers...........Howard

 

[Noton1205]

I asked if they wanted detailed drawings, but no all tey need is a ****ty form and money, what a con. Ive located the company who do their testing and contacting them tomorrow

 

[Engineer54]

Just who are these people at the LABC, that think they can totally ignore the qualifications, and experience of fully qualified electricians?? I can fully understand when Joe Public has notified and wants them to certify his installation, but that's not the same as a fully competent, fully qualified electrician ...is it!!!!


As a matter of interest, how much does it actually cost any of the scam providers to notify etc?? Because that should be the cost to a LABC registered electrician. Meaning one that has provided his certified electrical qualifications and other forms of qualification (JIB Gold card etc) to the LABC for verification of competency.

This really does need sorting out!! And how costs can be triple to quadruple from one LABC to another is just a pure nonsense, and smacks of a money making scam... You lot should really be getting to grips with all this crap, and put a stop to it. Your certified qualifications are just being totally ignored and undermined in the quest for money!!!

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Just who are these people at the LABC, that think they can totally ignore the qualifications, and experience of fully qualified electricians?? I can fully understand when Joe Public has notified and wants them to certify his installation, but that's not the same as a fully competent, fully qualified electrician ...is it!!!!


As a matter of interest, how much does it actually cost any of the scam providers to notify etc?? Because that should be the cost to a LABC registered electrician. Meaning one that has provided his certified electrical qualifications and other forms of qualification (JIB Gold card etc) to the LABC for verification of competency.

This really does need sorting out!! And how costs can be triple to quadruple from one LABC to another is just a pure nonsense, and smacks of a money making scam... You lot should really be getting to grips with all this crap, and put a stop to it. Your certified qualifications are just being totally ignored and undermined in the quest for money!!!

Well eng i would say Quango`s ...or something like that as they seem secretive and not really answerable to anyone really as regards how they syphon cash out of the public...........

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Just who are these people at the LABC, that think they can totally ignore the qualifications, and experience of fully qualified electricians?? I can fully understand when Joe Public has notified and wants them to certify his installation, but that's not the same as a fully competent, fully qualified electrician ...is it!!!!


As a matter of interest, how much does it actually cost any of the scam providers to notify etc?? Because that should be the cost to a LABC registered electrician. Meaning one that has provided his certified electrical qualifications and other forms of qualification (JIB Gold card etc) to the LABC for verification of competency.

This really does need sorting out!! And how costs can be triple to quadruple from one LABC to another is just a pure nonsense, and smacks of a money making scam... You lot should really be getting to grips with all this crap, and put a stop to it. Your certified qualifications are just being totally ignored and undermined in the quest for money!!!

Well ....One of my lecturers (who lives in a south yorkshire town would just happen to pay just over a quarter i would have to pay for notifying my local LABC.....its just not consistant........