Testing other peoples work ( within same company )

[Bulb6]

hi ,
im currently working on a new build housing site and have been testing alot of the installations,
some i have 1st and 2nd fixed etc,
but others i have not,
some of them i havnt wired the property but i have done the 2nd fix and then tested it too,

i have been filling out the electrical installation certificates too and signing them, so basically signing off other people work ?

i am interested on other peoples thoughts on this.....

 

[rapparee]

hi ,
im currently working on a new build housing site and have been testing alot of the installations,
some i have 1st and 2nd fixed etc,
but others i have not,
some of them i havnt wired the property but i have done the 2nd fix and then tested it too,

i have been filling out the electrical installation certificates too and signing them, so basically signing off other people work ?

i am interested on other peoples thoughts on this.....

Do you not use the 3 signature certificate with design, install, and test

 

[Bulb6]

they are NICEIC domestic installer certs

 

[Octopus]

I would say the certs are not suitable for your business use!

EDIT: Unless you are happy to carry the can when the shxt hits the fan!

 

[trev]

they are NICEIC domestic installer certs

So who is designing the installations? I wouldn't be signing off the full install mate, I'd be happy to put my name to the bits I do but aside from that, no chance.

 

[ipf]

The 'Qualified Supervisor' signature comes into play.....

 

[Bulb6]

they are installed as per site drawing,
but as i said some im not 1st fixing just 2nd fix and then testing,
im signing the certs then they will be checked and signed by the Qualified Supervisor

 

[Plonker 3]

they are NICEIC domestic installer certs

I think you will find it will be called a electrical installation certificate. Absolutely nothing to do with the NICEIC unless of course you dont wish for you work to comply with BS7671.

 

[Bulb6]

NICEIC's Domestic Installer Scheme?

 

[Octopus]

NICEIC's Domestic Installer Scheme?

Is intended for one man bands.........

 

[ipf]

Is intended for one man bands.........

Not even approved, then...BH we really are in the s****. DI cert.... with a QS signing them???

 

[Engineer54]

Not even approved, then...BH we really are in the s****. DI cert.... with a QS signing them???

Just goes to show what's actually going on out there!!

Nothings being monitored or policed by anybody, that's is the real truth of the matter!!

 

[PEG]

they are installed as per site drawing,
but as i said some im not 1st fixing just 2nd fix and then testing,
im signing the certs then they will be checked and signed by the Qualified Supervisor

...So the "Qualified Supervisor" is merely checking your certs? ...Does he need an suitable,approved and calibrated device for this task? :conehead:

 

[Engineer54]

...So the "Qualified Supervisor" is merely checking your certs? ...Does he need an suitable,approved and calibrated device for this task? :conehead:

That title is just another make believe title (like the DI title), made up by the NICEIC, that is being totally abused by companies on a day to day basis!!

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Unless you are the person conducting the installation work, you should not be signing off certificates stating that you are.
Use the certificates by all means to record test results, but don't sign them, just hand them to the QS to deal with.
If you were using the 3 part EICs, then you could sign for the testing, bit obviously someone else would have to sign for design and construction.