The large companies leaving the JIB

Guest112 · Feb 25, 2012

Arnold Layne said:
Lenny,

you would know better than I but my understanding is that most of the containment work that was in the AM2 has now been removed. Is this incorrect ?

your corrrect the only containment in the am2 now is ready installed for wiring

Arnold Layne · Feb 25, 2012

Electromotive, please do not describe yourself as a metal muncher. Others use it as a derogatory term. Have some self respect, you deserve it. Don't let anyone tell you this is not skilled work, it is and skilled men/women should do it and it should be recognised for what it is. Anyone who has worked on the big commercial/industrial sites knows that containment is critical and the amount of it is increasing and skilled personnel are required to do this work. The reactionaries want things done the way they were 50 years ago but the forward thinkers and the young understand. Good luck to you, your work is skilled work and you can be proud of it...and I'm glad you love the industry but love can be blind, however it doesn't have to be.

Arnold Layne · Feb 25, 2012

supasparxs said:
When I was working on the Westfield Stratford City Development last summer, some of the sparks that were working for Tommy Clarke's
told me that they and the big boys (NG Bailey's, Mathew Hall, Balfor Kilpatrik and someone else the name escapes me) were leaving the JIB so that do not have to agree and pay the JIB rates and conditions.

they all have their own agencies, so they will insist that we have the JIB cards but we will not pay the rate

what have peopple heard about this

Just for the purpose of clarity Supasparxs, the issue was that there would be no requirement for a JIB card, so it was not that they would insist on the card and then fail to pay the grade. They were going to bring in their own grading system, which would recognise the existing JIB grades based on Nationally recognised qualifications that were independently verified i.e. City and Guilds.Go to the Deskilling thread and you can see what it all about. It is long and there is a lot of stuff on there that I personally would take with a bucketful of salt!