Thinking of wiring up a garage with existing equipment

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I've built a garage recently, its now all waterproofed and I'm thinking of putting some electrics inside.

Just not sure exactly how I should run the electrics inside. I'm no qualified sparky and don't believe I know everything (far from it) but I consider myself competent on domestic installations (apart from stuff I've not seen before, but I only work on my own system so thats a moot point).

I've a spare 8 way CU that I thought about putting in the garage. Probably overkill but its free and in known good condition. I've always wired up sockets in a ring for the usual reasons, but I'm thinking now since I have so many spare circuits putting each of the 3 double sockets I intend to install in the gargage onto its own circuit and not bothering with a ring (since only one socket per circuit). I see no problems with this, anyone else?

Secondly, I wanted a dedicated double socket for outside tools such as lawn mowers and the like (but the socket itself located inside the garage). Normally I'd use a socket with built in RCD for this, but considering it has its own circuit and breaker in the (garage) CU, is this necessary? I've no problems putting one in if its going to be a little more sensitive when I slice the cable in half with a hedge trimmer, but I remember something about having too much RCD = bad, so I'd like to confirm this before proceeding with that part.

 

[SMB]

Burp.....

 

[Electricalserv]

I think that this place is all about advice.

Its a difficult one. Im fully qualified, (some how I got the 2391 !?)..however, I need advice on a regular basis (because im actually a village idiot).

Im glad I can come here and ask for advice, and advice has been freely given, and gratefully received. The advice I have received is in safe hands because even though I am a village idiot I have 'half a clue'.

I do understand where you are coming from Electricalserv in regard to advice 'dished out'. A little knowledge can be dangerous. But, what do you do?

From my experience this is a HELP forum. People advise here. People can not change the way others are going to behave. If someone has got it in their minds that they are going to rewire their house then they will do so.

Part P doesn't even come into the equation behind locked doors.

Advice is good. Thats why people log on to this forum.

You are completley right. We all need advice. My point is if a freely admitting non-spark comes online and asks how to wire his garage up should we be offering him our experience and knowledge. Its annoying because we see countless threads about sparks being out of work and this is how we repay ourselves....by offering our expertise to novices. Its the DIY'rs I'm talking about here not trainees or qualified lads...

 

[malcolmsanford]

SMB good post and in agreement. We on a forum can advise this and that but the bottom line is your not going to stop someone if they are determined to do something, all you can do is point out the dangers and hope that they take heed of the advice.

I hope if just one of my posts as made someone aware or made them think perhaps I should listen to that and get someone in, or not do it that way but this, and it helped them then I'd be more than happy.

SMB I have a feeling your intelligent ...but you hide it well

 

[SMB]

SMB I have a feeling your intelligent ...but you hide it well

Nah, youve got me all wrong Malc...........................

I is a bit fick innit.

 

[Geoffsd]

I is a bit fick innit.

If you were that thick you wouldn't know it.

 

[mattmoo1974]

You could wire it up Squide and there be nothing wrong with. I sure you probably can and have in the past and I'm sure its (worked) fine. Long and short of it is, If you want the paper work and no that its safe and tested get a sparky. If you do it and your house burns down and you have nt got a piece of paper to say it was done by a sparky to standards. Mr insurance company is going to say "Tough luck" . You ll save in the short term not in the long.
I hope this is a middle of the road answer.
Just be aware of the Pro's and con's.
And if you Electrocute yourself dont blame me

 

[mogga]

Where do we draw the line on giving advice? On this occasion the job is to big for a diyer. Yes he will be able to run the cables, fit the sockets etc but will it be safe to energize and use?

May be the members should be given some guild lines for giving advise to none electricians from the admin? I'm not talking about is the forum or a member liable if the wrong advise is given and it causes injury. We could post on each thread that asks for our help "get an electrician in". This could be a debate for another thread.

This forum is exactly that a FORUM the Admin /Mods ect ( as such do a good job) are there to prevent unsocial behaviour ect NOT to say who can and cant give advice IMO there are some problems/questions posed I wouldnt answer except to advise calling an electrician There are some in forum who ask questions and get caught up on one reg or the other (RCD,RCBO being the fav bs3036 fuses being another ) there are some who give sweeping statements you cant regulate What advice is given and who gives what advice Personaly I have had a couple of dozen " differences of view" with some guys but thats just like IRW guys opinions differ on most things except that Neil Lennon is a wee ginger trumpet

 

[SMB]

I need to wire some outside lights.

Ive just been digging around in the shed and ive found some string.

If I wet the string could I wire my outside lights with it?

Do I need to keep wetting the string in times of drought?





Grin.


Lets help where we can.

Its a forum open to the general public.




Im glad its here.

 

[Paul.M]

This forum is exactly that a FORUM the Admin /Mods ect ( as such do a good job) are there to prevent unsocial behaviour ect NOT to say who can and cant give advice IMO there are some problems/questions posed I wouldnt answer except to advise calling an electrician There are some in forum who ask questions and get caught up on one reg or the other (RCD,RCBO being the fav bs3036 fuses being another ) there are some who give sweeping statements you cant regulate What advice is given and who gives what advice Personaly I have had a couple of dozen " differences of view" with some guys but thats just like IRW guys opinions differ on most things except that Neil Lennon is a wee ginger trumpet

Agree with you, admin and mods do a great job.

I was referring to self confessed Diyers who want to do a new install in a garage, not electricians seeking advise on codes etc.

Reading this and others threads its plain to see that many of members walk away from giving advise for safety sake of the person asking. I believe this thread is one of them. Please get an electrician in.

 

[RWJ]

Agree with you, admin and mods do a great job.

I was referring to self confessed Diyers who want to do a new install in a garage, not electricians seeking advise on codes etc.

Reading this and others threads its plain to see that many of members walk away from giving advise for safety sake of the person asking. I believe this thread is one of them. Please get an electrician in.

To be honest he's not posted an update or logged in in nearly a day.....

Bet he's thought I'll do it anyway because I know what I'm doing.

Either that or he's in casualty after having a go!

 

[Paul.M]

To be honest he's not posted an update or logged in in nearly a day.....

Bet he's thought I'll do it anyway because I know what I'm doing.

Either that or he's in casualty after having a go!

Lol. He has had all weekend to Do It All, to make a nice HomeBase for his family to Focus on now that he has power for his BB&Q nights just in time for summer.

 

[RWJ]

Lol. He has had all weekend to Do It All, to make a nice HomeBase for his family to Focus on now that he has power for his BB&Q nights just in time for summer.

Gets on my WICKES!!!

 

[Paul.M]

Can't believe I missed that one for a full house. Well done RWJ.

 

[mattmoo1974]

Hes probs run out of nails and used screwfix method

 

[Knobhead]

One for the Moderators to consider, in the heading of the open forums place a disclaimer regarding advice given.