ELECSA Certification Scheme Thought i would share what elecsa said

[snowhead]

like i said , it was personal opinion only , others may differ.

Others will always differ until there a definitive test case.

 

[sedgy34]

It's a business so I would treat it as commercial the notifiable part are just after your money, anyway who's saying Elecsa are correct with what they say about it?

 

[Guitarist]

As with most things, nobody cares until things go wrong, then they will say "why wasn't it notified?"

 

[johnboy6083]

The bodies will all push for them to be under the scope of part P, as it means that they earn from it!

 

[Robinson]

Further to the dictionary definition above -

Isn't the definition of a dwelling just somewhere people dwell?

They definitely do that in a residential home but not in business premises.

Exactly the Point i was thinking of. because lets face it if it is interpretable then we have to take the language and use of to attain the point of requirements

If that makes sense :0)

 

[Richard Burns]

In the building regulations a "dwelling" is classed differently from an "institution" and Part P AP states that it applies to dwellings (or shared areas in blocks of flats, shared business/ dwelling supplies, etc.) but does not mention institutions.
Therefore since an institution is not a dwelling then it must not be under Part P.

 

[Robert Turnbull]

I would say it comes down to council tax to definine a building that's part p or commercial.

someone said they pay business rates so I'd go on that

 

[GLENNSPARK]

elecsa are trying to make it a notifyable...
bull!!
its a commercial business ...and as such...

 

[Robinson]

As with most things, nobody cares until things go wrong, then they will say "why wasn't it notified?"

Serious Point. & thats why i feel uncomfortable now in NOT notifying it, before i spoke to them i wouldnt of but now...

 

[Robinson]

In the building regulations a "dwelling" is classed differently from an "institution" and Part P AP states that it applies to dwellings (or shared areas in blocks of flats, shared business/ dwelling supplies, etc.) but does not mention institutions.
Therefore since an institution is not a dwelling then it must not be under Part P.

Great Point. Thanks. i feel better again now....still Guitarist had point in saying it aint until things go wrong (which of course i hope wouldnt) that then they say "oh why werent it notified". then they start playing with words to cover someones backside

 

[Richard Burns]

Glad it helped, I am also "playing with words" but since it is compliance with the building regulations and it is the definitions stated in the regulations it should be pretty iron clad for you if something should go wrong, which one hopes it will not.
Those who start asking after the fact can usually twist things the way they want, you just have to be confident that you are doing the right thing, which I think you are, but it is only my opinion (which does not count for much!)

 

[SYKRAPS]

In the OP you state that you are using rcbo's for given reasons................so if you notify it or not what is the difference if you notify it or not with regards to Part P other than the certificate that will be delivered at a price? Certainly no safety issue if it is installed correctly 'as I am sure that it will be'.

Just because it has a Part P listing does not mean automatically that it has been installed correctly from what I have seen in the past.

If the install fulfills the criteria of Part P why not just notify it to cover your --- for a few quid..........JMO

 

[Guitarist]

Add £2 to the job and notify it, if it puts your mind at rest

 

[Octopus]

Add £2 to the job and notify it, if it puts your mind at rest

Minimum £5

 

[Tiberius]

Same applies to purpose built student homes, it's a business so no need to notify imo, certs are always issued.