Too much information can be dangerous!

[Rockingit]

Had a bit of a scrap on site yesterday with the site foreman after the plumber decided to go drilling underfloor heating pipes about 20mm away from my main rise of CU cables - and there's a lot of them!

I wanted to, and can (still) see no good reason not to, move the plumbing feed over one joist, problem solved. Anyway, all got a bit heated (pun intended) so off I trudge to get the BRB and thrust 528.3 under his nose - at which point he says "that's fine then, we'll just wrap some insulation around your cables"!!!!!

The reason that I put bRb in bold above is because the new wording in bGb is a little different, and does not use the word insulation. Unfortunately it was the BRB I had with me, not the BGB.

 

[Rockingit]

The trouble is that it's all very well being officious and being by the book, but it's not great for business if you get perceived as a trouble maker!! I have actually muttered about not signing the job off, and I am going to take a load of photos before it gets boarded up. What I put on the paperwork as a deviation I have yet to decide, but the job is at least six weeks before finishing up. The plumber isnt there by day this week as he's on the training course for the heat exchanger so I've some time to myself.

 

[sim22]

Sat in the canteen at college on monday night, watched this bloke messing with the vending machine, pressing all the buttons that weren't lit, then his mate joins him + starts shoving the machine, eventually the one with the brain cell turned up + pressed one of the lit buttons .............. as if by magic a drink arrived !!!. Had to leave for fear of messing myself.

I'll let you guess which course they are doing :tounge_smile:

 

[telectrix]

that's nothing. was recently asked by a plumber to connect and certify UFH he has installed. not the mat, the cable on a roll. FFS. you can guess my answer, 2nd word was OFF.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

plumbers are the bane of most electricians lives the word dense was invented for plumbers any trade happy to spend half it's time up to his elbows in excrement really shouldn't be allowed to make decisions. Personally I'd have finished the job as it was then reported it and failed the installation on the electrical installation certificate i.e I wouldn't have got one

Well thats it int it.....you can usually tell what they are doing for a job when they walk past smelling of poo........

 

[telectrix]

look on the bright side. a plumber can be replaced by a 4" plunger. we, on the other hand are not expendable.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

some of em at the college look like they have been used as plungers...lol........

 

[telectrix]

why do you think most plumbers are bald? when their heads not up their arse, it's down a bog.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

why do you think most plumbers are bald? when their heads not up their arse, it's down a bog.

all the hairs worn away from all that scraping (bogbrush)...lol....or is that loo............:disguise:

 

[Rockingit]

and to think we trust them with a blow torch and gas supplies. No wonder they need a Gas Safe!!

 

[GLENNSPARK]

and to think we trust them with a blow torch and gas supplies. No wonder they need a Gas Safe!!

Amount of noxious fumes that can waft of em though rockin.....and a blowtorch......

 

[Rockingit]

ain't that just true!!!

 

[Rockingit]

Wish me luck - am going to be telling the site agent that I'm calling in the BCO to inspect, and issue me with some sort of indemnity paperwork!! Had a long conversation with an architect friend of mine earlier about the pro's and con's and he's set me on the straight path.

 

[Rockingit]

And as of today.....this job goes from bad to worse!! I didn't have any wiring information for the heating system, and none in the plans, so off I trot to Nu-Heat who's system it is (as conveniently they're just up the road from site).

Almost get myself a mini training course and a coffee for an hour, but what transpires? It's a 12kW system being delivered, 40A start-up and 49A running, no diversity applicable as it's got instantaneous water heating as part of it. Add to that around 4A for the rest of the control and pumping jizz, 6A of water treatment and another 8A for a water bore pump on continuous duty, plus another amp for a sewerage pump and you get 68A of continuous load before you've even entered the front door. It's an 80A incomer FFS!!!

 

[spaldingsparks]

Looks like the sparks are in trouble again for showing other trades the correct way to do the job just goes to show we are still the cream of the trades