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[andyb]

Hum.

Let me think about this.

3 career politician leading parties and 1 man who has worked in the private sector for decades.

Who is in touch? Well, its not the career politicians as they haven't got a clue how the rest of us live, work and "exist"

Farage had a public school education who traded commodities on the London Metal Exchange. That really gives him experience on how the rest of us live and exist.

Obviously you Murdoch have no idea how the ordinary person in the street lives, hanging around with working class people and spending time with them socially. If you really want to get a grasp of the problems that ordinary working class people face in their daily lives you should of got a job on the stock exchange and mixed with millionaires.

As for career politicians, Farage has been standing in elections since the early 90s and has been an MEP for 16 years, so he's been a member of parliament longer than the other three. He is as much as a career politician as them.

 

[Octopus]

Farage had a public school education who traded commodities on the London Metal Exchange. That really gives him experience on how the rest of us live and exist.

Obviously you Murdoch have no idea how the ordinary person in the street lives, hanging around with working class people and spending time with them socially. If you really want to get a grasp of the problems that ordinary working class people face in their daily lives you should of got a job on the stock exchange and mixed with millionaires.

As for career politicians, Farage has been standing in elections since the early 90s and has been an MEP for 16 years, so he's been a member of parliament longer than the other three. He is as much as a career politician as them.

The point I'm making is that if you look at Cameron, Clegg, Farage and Milliband - you can instantly rule out Cameron, Clegg and Milliband as not being in touch as they've not worked - yet Farage has.

You seen to think Milliband is your mesiah, but on what basis? Most of the current opposition front bench have had privileged up bringings.

As for Farage being a career politician - absolute rubbish - he's in his 50's and looking at his Wiki page he didn't go to university and started work in 1984, and has worked for at least 4 employers. yes he may have been in the City but at least he's worked for a living.

Cameron has done a year or so with Carlton Communications, Clegg and Milliband have NO work experience that I'm aware of.

I'd kick out ALL MP's with less than 20 years real work experience if it was up to me

Farage is not getting my vote.

Just saying.

 

[andyb]

The point I'm making is that if you look at Cameron, Clegg, Farage and Milliband - you can instantly rule out Cameron, Clegg and Milliband as not being in touch as they've not worked - yet Farage has.

You seen to think Milliband is your mesiah, but on what basis? Most of the current opposition front bench have had privileged up bringings.

As for Farage being a career politician - absolute rubbish - he's in his 50's and looking at his Wiki page he didn't go to university and started work in 1984, and has worked for at least 4 employers. yes he may have been in the City but at least he's worked for a living.

Cameron has done a year or so with Carlton Communications, Clegg and Milliband have NO work experience that I'm aware of.

I'd kick out ALL MP's with less than 20 years real work experience if it was up to me

Farage is not getting my vote.

Just saying.

Let me put one thing straight first, I do not see Miliband as a messiah, I put no one on a peddle stall and can find fault in all of them. Where you got that from I've no idea and if I've given you that impression then my communication skills are severely lacking.

They are all career politicians in my opinion, I see no difference between working in the city, being a journalist or being a political adviser. I don't think that any of our leading politicians can lay claim to having experience of the lives of common people who they claim to represent.

I'm not really voting for Miliband but for the labour movement, though I will say that my politics are similar to Miliband and if his brother was leading the party I don't think I would be voting for them.

Your comment re 20 years working experience is an interesting one, I'm not sure about kicking out MPs but I too would like to see a larger proportion of working class people representing us. The trouble is that the country is now ruled a middle class elite who have no interest in letting the working class voice being heard.
As you rightly point out MPs, not only the party leaders but over 90% ao all MPs. Look at journalists now, middle class university educated people with little or no experience of working class people, look at TV, not just BBC but ITV as well. It seems to me that there are very few people who have an insight into the live of ordinary people have much influence.

 

[Octopus]

So tonight the IFS has stated that if Labour win on Thursday, then borrowing will be £90 billion higher than the others!

thats £90 billion more.

to get this straight, they will be borrowing £90 billion more, and thus the national debt will be £90 billion higher.

cripes £90 billion, then there's the added interest on the extra borrowing....

 

[andyb]

So tonight the IFS has stated that if Labour win on Thursday, then borrowing will be £90 billion higher than the others!

thats £90 billion more.

to get this straight, they will be borrowing £90 billion more, and thus the national debt will be £90 billion higher.

cripes £90 billion, then there's the added interest on the extra borrowing....

£90 billion eh?

 

[Octopus]

£90 billion eh?

Yup, £90 billion more borrowing, and £90 billion more national debt.

 

[andyb]

Yup, £90 billion more borrowing, and £90 billion more national debt.

You've won me over with your argument. Guess I'll be voting Tory.

£90 billion.

 

[Octopus]

You've won me over with your argument. Guess I'll be voting Tory.

£90 billion.

Not trying to win anyone over!

there are simply too many people moaning about the increase in the national debt since 2010 - the reality is that who ever won in 2010 would have racked up the debt as cutting £160 billion overnight would have destroyed the uk economy.

so just focus on how long it will take to pay off, as by 2020 the national debt could be £2 trillion - which is eye watering

so any surplus can't be just be spent on services, it has to be used to pay interest and debt.

so any party promising much in the way of extra spending, or tax cuts isn't being honest.

how ever you look at it, it's not looking good for our kids and grand KiddKidd

 

[micknew]

Thank God everyone I've talked to down here is voting UKIP.
We're the first destination for benefit/NHS seekers then they disperse across GB.

 

[Deleted account]

Too many parties( in fact all the parties ) are talking about the deficit. People are mistakiingly thinking the deficit is the debt. It's not. The deficit is the shortfall we are paying on the interest on the debt. no one has even begun to talk about paying the actual debt off. We are up **** creek.

 

[andyb]

Not trying to win anyone over!

there are simply too many people moaning about the increase in the national debt since 2010 - the reality is that who ever won in 2010 would have racked up the debt as cutting £160 billion overnight would have destroyed the uk economy.

so just focus on how long it will take to pay off, as by 2020 the national debt could be £2 trillion - which is eye watering

so any surplus can't be just be spent on services, it has to be used to pay interest and debt.

so any party promising much in the way of extra spending, or tax cuts isn't being honest.

how ever you look at it, it's not looking good for our kids and grand KiddKidd

Labour have said all along that they would cut the deficit slower than the Tories, in 2010 the Tories said they would clear the deficit by now & start paying off the debt, but it's running at £90 billion.

They lied than & they are lying now.

Don't worry, I'm confident that Cameron will still be PM this time next week.

It seems that the Tories are better at lying than the Labour party are at getting the truth across.

 

[andyb]

We are up **** creek.

I don't think so. This is still a very rich prosperous country.

What are you basing that on?

 

[Octopus]

Labour have said all along that they would cut the deficit slower than the Tories, in 2010 the Tories said they would clear the deficit by now & start paying off the debt, but it's running at £90 billion.

They ALL lied than & they are ALL lying now. Yes ALL parties

Don't worry, I'm confident that Cameron will still be PM this time next week.

It seems that the Tories are better at lying than the Labour party are at getting the truth across.

edited that for you

whats really scared, is that unless the eu climbs out of recession and starts growing quickly, nothing much will change in the uk, unless the exporters get out and about across the globe.

Tne other real worry for is all, is that with the growing population, housing costs are only going up

 

[andyb]

edited that for you

whats really scared, is that unless the eu climbs out of recession and starts growing quickly, nothing much will change in the uk, unless the exporters get out and about across the globe.

Tne other real worry for is all, is that with the growing population, housing costs are only going up

Then we need to build more houses, preferably social housing.

 

[Octopus]

Then we need to build more houses, preferably social housing.

And none of the main parties have this in their manifestos