Undertaking work on poor systems

[gazdkw82]

Had a quote to do today. Simple job, a doorbell (built in transformer and chime jobby)

Best option is to feed of the ring with switched fcu.

I took a look at the installation and noticed quite a few problems. No bonding, no rcd protection, CU right next to the gas meter, 3036 fuses etc

Zs on the ring measured 0.61ohms, PFC measured 951A, TNCS earthing arrangement.

I've informed the home owners of my findings, however is that where my responsibility for the installation ends if I do undertake the work and all my test results are good?

 

[telectrix]

best option is to supply a wireless doorbell. batteries in the transmitter and the receiver. no connection to a shitty installation.ding dong.

 

[Leesparkykent]

Had a quote to do today. Simple job, a doorbell (built in transformer and chime jobby)

Best option is to feed of the ring with switched fcu.

I took a look at the installation and noticed quite a few problems. No bonding, no rcd protection, CU right next to the gas meter, 3036 fuses etc

Zs on the ring measured 0.61ohms, PFC measured 951A, TNCS earthing arrangement.

I've informed the home owners of my findings, however is that where my responsibility for the installation ends if I do undertake the work and all my test results are good?

You would have to make sure earthing and bonding is up to scratch and that your work complies.

 

[gazdkw82]

best option is to supply a wireless doorbell. batteries in the transmitter and the receiver. no connection to a shitty installation.ding dong.

They want a mains one. They have a Ring one which has a camera on it. Battery's don't last.

 

[gazdkw82]

You would have to make sure earthing and bonding is up to scratch and that your work complies.

Easily updated. MET is on the cut out. Gas meter is right next to it. Don't know about water. Couldn't find the incoming supply

 

[telectrix]

spelling police say "batteries".

 

[telectrix]

so youfix the installation as regards earthing and bonding, test as required, then go ahead and fit the diner donger,

 

[gazdkw82]

spelling police say "batteries".

I blame the fone hehe

 

[gazdkw82]

so youfix the installation as regards earthing and bonding, test as required, then go ahead and fit the diner donger,

No requirements for RCD protection? What about the CU so close to the gas meter?

 

[telectrix]

is there any reason for RCD protection for a transformer?

 

[gazdkw82]

is there any reason for RCD protection for a transformer?

No but there is for cables buried in a wall less than 50m which are the conditions of the RFC circuit (for which I'll spur from)

 

[gazdkw82]

50mm not 50m

 

[Rosco]

Rcd fcu?

 

[pirate]

Tell them wireless doorbell with batteries...avoid the hassle of trying to get round the crap installation. You'll get no thanks for it, and probably not get the job anyway when you tell them the cost...which is fine...walk away.
Of course, if you can "upsell", do it, because you will be properly paid for your expertise, and they will benefit from a safer installation.

 

[gazdkw82]

Tell them wireless doorbell with batteries...avoid the hassle of trying to get round the crap installation. You'll get no thanks for it, and probably not get the job anyway when you tell them the cost...which is fine...walk away.
Of course, if you can "upsell", do it, because you will be properly paid for your expertise, and they will benefit from a safer installation.

Yeh I plan to do just that. Thank you