Using other cable as bonding

[Deleted member 26818]

There is nothing prohibiting the use of any colour conductor as a protective conductor.
There are prohibitions against the use of a conductor coloured green and yellow being used for any purpose other than as a protective conductor.
Whichever colour is used, the conductor at the terminations must be identified, using colour.

 

[Silly Sausage]

darkwood - 1, everyone else - 10+ :29:

 

[Darkwood]

Ok il bow down gracefully on this one with the obvious 10mm equip' bonding, although where would you stop say 4mm supplementary bonding even if correctly marked at both ends wont on all occassions come from the D/B or MET and not knowing its destination or where it originates from can gives a confusion to it purpose even for a experienced electrician had it been G/Y throughout its length then its purpose at least is identifiable.

Just a little add on about the Green/Yellow and why it must never be used as any other conductor... earth used to be green only but due to about 5-10% of electricians having some form of colour blindness it was in cases hard for them to distinguish red or green hence we now have a 2 colour earth this is also the reason why 514.4.5 exists -The single colour green shall not be used.
514.4.2 that G/Y is never used for any other purpose.

Just in case you didnt realise why some regulations seem at first overkill like in 514.4.5

 

[Darkwood]

darkwood - 1, everyone else - 10+ :29:

Lol ok yes point made :svengo: but wont change my ways, i was taught the good old fashion way 4yrs in college 25 yrs ago no fast track few years we not only learnt the regs but why they existed, but before you pull me on it, ive kept up to date as i did it on 15th edition omg feeling old now :/

 

[Silly Sausage]

Got to be if added id colour/sleeving goes missing/not fitted, virtually everyone would assume a G/Y cable would be a non live conductor. Assumption being the mother of all ffff ups!

 

[DurhamSparky]

Earth = G/Y

install it as it comes off the drum and let the home owner paint it!! that way no breaking the regs and no trying to explain your self in court...!!! i did read that the earth/bonding conductor has to be sleeved accordingly through out its length entirely not just at connections!!!

 

[cadspark]

Thanks for all your constructive debate on this issue. I shall discuss the issues with the householder. I must admit I am more inclined to install normal green/yellow.

 

[telectrix]

:bulb2: why not compromise. install black cable and clip with green/yellow clips. :lipsrsealed2:

 

[Darkwood]

Earth = G/Y

install it as it comes off the drum and let the home owner paint it!! that way no breaking the regs and no trying to explain your self in court...!!! i did read that the earth/bonding conductor has to be sleeved accordingly through out its length entirely not just at connections!!!

Woo hoo cheers DurhamSparky.... i was getting strategically out manouvered in this debate but now im back in the room :20:needed some backup.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Earth = G/Y

install it as it comes off the drum and let the home owner paint it!! that way no breaking the regs and no trying to explain your self in court...!!! i did read that the earth/bonding conductor has to be sleeved accordingly through out its length entirely not just at connections!!!

Where did you read that, and how does that sit with the NICEIC's opinion that black should be used as earth and grey as neutral when using 3 core cable, in order to de-neutralise the black?

 

[telectrix]

why don't we just do as the froggies do, use any colour we want. and if anybody disagrees, block the roads, ports and airports with tractors.