Vaulted ceilings ..... late decision .... grrrrrr

[Octopus]

working on a bungalow to chalet conversion and the customer has just decided that all the upstairs rooms will have full height vaulted ceilings ....... it’s all latest spec insulation so how best to run the feed and loops around between the switches ?

So no lofts ......

Where are safe zones apart from inline with the switches and within 150 mm of the tops of the walls .....

A PITA...

 

[cliffed]

Ha ha,everyone,including sparkies on site,I think I invented it,they all said it was against all the regs at the time.

 

[Dillb]

Yea,loop mains in switches,for ease.
In the 80’s it was frowned on,even niceic didn’t recommend doing it.

What the hell do those robbing twunts know, wind me up thinking they say such drivel yet some people have thier heads so far up them they can see the last meal they ate.

 

[Dillb]

Yea,loop mains in switches,for ease.
In the 80’s it was frowned on,even niceic didn’t recommend doing it.

What the hell do those robbing twunts know, wind me up thinking they say such drivel yet some people have thier heads so far up them they can see the last meal they ate.

 

[Dave OCD]

I do a fair bit of work on a bungalow estate with nearly 300 dwellings,one,two and 3 bed all built in the early 1980s. It's interesting that most are wired with loops through the lights but a few here and there are looped through the switches, must have been one naughty sparks about at the time.

 

[Bellendian]

I've had a few of these scenarios before...it gets even better when they want recessed downlighters in the skeilling thats full of 150mm of celotex!

I've always treated vertical surfaces as walls, and anything else as 'not a wall' if that makes sense.

As far as I can tell, safe zones only apply to walls?

Only other thing to note is that rafters shouldn't be drilled unless permitted by the SE that specced them, and just to try and use some common to try your best to leave cables out of reach of both the roofers nail gun and the plasterers drywall screws!

 

[Squid]

Whats the advice from the architect?

 

[Toneyz]

Whats the advice from the architect?

Probably none existent sparkies problem.

 

[Squid]

Probably none existent sparkies problem.

Hopefully BC won't have an issue.

 

[telectrix]

use bare MICC and period switches in brass. supply client with a tin of Duraglit. .

 

[Squid]

First you need to measure the room to work out how much light the room needs, does the owner want hanging lights ofrup lighters on the walls to light the vaulted ceiling?

 

[Squid]

use bare MICC and period switches in brass. supply client with a tin of Duraglit. .

Better off with a run of tray work through the room suspended on threaded stud and fittings fed by bare kopex which are suspended on galvanised hooks.

 

[rapparee]

Nothing worse than walking in and seeing a Ikea box sat there waiting for you.

NEXT also sell fiddly light fittings

 

[Flanders]

Yea,loop mains in switches,for ease.
In the 80’s it was frowned on,even niceic didn’t recommend doing it.
I got told off so many times,& basically told not to do it.
How things have changed.

The Hager 2 way switches have a neutral loop connection on them so it must more the norm these days , as other have said most light fitting seam to come with poor terminal blocks and no loop connections so better loop in and out of switches . Also makes its easier for Mr DIY when he is changing a light fitting and posting on here to ask where all the wires go