Vphase units

[UNG]

As I’ve said before if someone offers one on trial for free I’d give it a whirl.

It would still be to expensive for me, even getting it free I don't think they are worth the time, effort and cost to install

 

[Knobhead]

I’d want it fitted free!

 

[UNG]

You drive a hard bargain

 

[Marvo]

I think Yorkshiremike's analysis sounds well considered and fair. There are minor savings to be had but if you offset these against the fact it goes into bypass after load reaches 8 amps which would make the installation very tricky to get optimum results, the initial capital outlay, the less efficient running of certain appliances such as vacuum cleaners, fridges, lights etc....I can't help thinking it's just not a viable technology in your average domestic environment.

Maybe if you have an eco-house and have spent thousands on 300mm of roof and wall insulation, heat recovery HVAC systems, triple glazing and all that jazz then the VPhase might be justifiable as a final effort to squeeze every little bit of carbon out of your footprint.

If I wasn't on a different continent I'd seriously consider installing on of these in Tony's house. For entertainment value alone it would make it worth while.

 

[Knobhead]

I'm not paying for something i don't think will work.

Marvo, you'd have to put up with a grumpy old sod looking over your shoulder.

 

[Silly Sausage]

If they cut out after 8 amps, pointless Tony having one with his sound system (put it on 10 for a 4:30am start)

 

[UNG]

I think Yorkshiremike's analysis sounds well considered and fair. There are minor savings to be had but if you offset these against the fact it goes into bypass after load reaches 8 amps which would make the installation very tricky to get optimum results, the initial capital outlay, the less efficient running of certain appliances such as vacuum cleaners, fridges, lights etc....I can't help thinking it's just not a viable technology in your average domestic environment.

I think it shows how useless and ineffective this unit is

Maybe if you have an eco-house and have spent thousands on 300mm of roof and wall insulation, heat recovery HVAC systems, triple glazing and all that jazz then the VPhase might be justifiable as a final effort to squeeze every little bit of carbon out of your footprint.

But what carbon footprint does the manufacture of this unit create.

I don't worry about living carbon free as I keep generating carbon dioxide

If I wasn't on a different continent I'd seriously consider installing on of these in Tony's house. For entertainment value alone it would make it worth while.

What with a web cam feed I think it could be entertaining watching Tony with a sledge hammer

 

[Marvo]

What with a web cam feed I think it could be entertaining watching Tony with a sledge hammer

I think he's a softie at heart underneath the hard shell of an exterior lies a warm .........ah who am I trying to kid? He'd probably go at it with his steel toe-capped Doc Martens when his morning cuppa takes 45 seconds longer to make.

 

[Knobhead]

I’m not spoiling my 20 hole Doc’s kicking one of those things. Anyway who’s being spying on me?

 

[marzijac]

VPhase is inferior to both VO4Home and VoltisHome. The two latter units are rated for 60amps and both are one line in, one out so easier to install. Technically, the VO4Home is probably the better but overall, VoltisHome is probably the better choice simply because of size. The VoltisHome unit is far more compact and offers pretty much the same as VO4Home but at around £200 cheaper (though check the prices, they are subject to change).

 

[Engineer54]

Both unit's basically the same but one is 200quid cheaper than the other!! These units are beginning to sound very expensive to say the least. ...I wonder what the pay-back period is going to be?? lol!!!

 

[marzijac]

Both unit's basically the same but one is 200quid cheaper than the other!! These units are beginning to sound very expensive to say the least. ...I wonder what the pay-back period is going to be?? lol!!!

Well that's easy to work out. Each unit claims an 18% saving, unlikely but even if we take a lower performance level of 10%, then VoltisHome at £450 offers a payback time of less than 4 years, at £650 VO4Home offers a payback time of just less than 6 years. Obviously the payback times will be greater as the cost of electricity rises and/or the savings are greater than 10%. I've not heard anything about VO4Home but the VoltisHome unit as fitted by an friend was saving 14%. On an average utility bill of £1,200, that's a return of £168, or about a return of 37% on a £450 investment - can you get that much from a bank?

 

[Dan]

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